The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Government policies directly affect it, it's BS to just say ya well we have an aging population, it's not like its a surprise to find out Canada's population is aging in the last year. Canada just recorded the fastest immigration growth in a 2 month period in history.

I was more thinking I am not blaming Justin for this . I am blaming Fentanyl though. I know this sounds morbid but if you choose to do drugs and OD that is your problem

Nice to see the Liberals change the election date so 80 MP's can qualify for their pensions. As many of them will be voted out

This is so ****ing deceptive. They moved the date by a week because the original date was on Diwali. Want to to know which of those MPs most benefit? The conservatives! The number of liberal MPs who a) got elected in 2019 and b) won't be elected in 2025 is probably single digits.

What's Diwali?

The only ones losing seats or going are corrupt liberals and the carbon tax making life more affordable.
I hope he denies transfer payments to BC till they axe the tax

Sure is going to be quite a trip when the conservatives win, repeal the carbon tax, and none of the "affordability" promises actually get better. Maybe if they had gone for one of the many many taxes that (like all taxes) have negative economic effects compared to doing nothing, but which don't have rebates. Like the fuel excise tax. But nope, instead of any of the many factors actually substantially contributing to affordability today, they went for the stupidest one to repeal.

Well doesn’t mean Trudeau is against oil anyway .

I believe it’s an Indian holiday he could have moved the election a week earlier but than all those liberals that get voted out do not qualify for pensions

Well we all know gas will be more affordable and so will it be to heat your home

Indeed. But you missed the point. There are many many ways to make stuff cheaper. So many taxes, so many ways where the government takes less and the people have more. All of those help “affordability”. Removing the one tax that is mostly rebated, even one wants to debate the extend of “mostly”, removing the one tax nobody but partisans seriously think is a big driver of todays affordability problem, isn’t going to magically fix anything.

It’s a great campaign slogan. But when you dont magically have more money after it’s gone, don’t be surprised.

I’m Sure conservatives politicians are different and they wouldn’t made the same Move right , if that was the reason behind liberals move ?

You know the great thing about transmountain , it will help with oil ….
No worry .

And yes all prices go up regardless of everything .

That is a whataboutism and I am sure they would but their not in power now

No question the trans mountain pipeline will ship more oil that is a good thing at 34 billion $ cost to the taxpayers which is a bad thing

it’s not a whataboutism , it’s about me being honest enough to know all politicians are equally bad when it comes to personal interest vs taxpayers !
Obviously u dont !

Well being a oil stock holder I’m happy the taxpayers paid it and not the stock holder 😀
And u agree with that concept right ?
Canadian as whole should pay for all above user , not the above user to pay their fair share when it comes to oil !
So same principle with the pipeline .

The irony ?
Alberta, a proponent like lozen complaining about carbon tax making prices higher ->

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-set-....

So 13cent per litre increase on a f-150 (most poplar vehicle in alberta?) is higher then the cost of carbon tax by itself!
Hilarious , ho yes people won’t be able to heat their home because of it …

I live in BC and sadly many individuals like myself need a pick up as I build houses. Electric trucks are crap and have limited towing capacity .

U get already Tax reduction by being a self made employee and you expenses of gaz on your business taxes ….
We are speaking about regular individual !
U knows those u claim couldn’t pay their home due to heat increases ?

Ps: and I’m sure that little
Increase for you , even after your tax reduction , you will pass it down your costumer lol .
Don’t cry to me about it lol …

You know it does surprise me how trucks still are the number one selling vehicle . I’m not sure $2.00 a litre gas slows that down .

Pass it on to the customer yeah ok . You do realize that many home builders struggle . I left Edmonton cause you couldn’t build a quality home and make a buck . Will see how BC goes . I love the Kootenay’s that’s for sure . If you think Albertans drive slit of trucks you should see it here . They dispose Trudeau here as well

If 2 dollars cost is nothing in increase to change vehicle , well the tax carbon is even cheaper as a cost compare with those trucks .
So no need to make a big fuss about it like you do .

And yes tax carbon will increase eventually pass 2030 , forcing more and more changes in behaviour consumption , like they did with cigarettes taxes and the like .

Yes I know cost more to build due to capital cost increases .
It’s a cycle , it will come down eventually.
That what happens when you live outside a 0% interest rates environment

Some important details in this report: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-...

The "carbon tax" always has been really two things. There is the one for big industry. And there is the one for consumers. And then there is a whole suit of other things beyond the two carbon taxes, that all work together to - close but probably not quite - to our emissions targets. Of all of that, the political oxygen focuses about 98% on just the consumer carbon tax. And one of the things I've keep harping on is that if Poilievre wants to get rid of that, he needs to make very clear what the actual rest of his plan is.

Anyways, the report emphasizes firstly that the two carbon taxes ARE indeed projected to make big positive impacts. Fantastic. We knew this all along, but it is really good to have more evidence in the column that yes a price on carbon is important. Second, it is worth noting that of the two - industrial vs consumer - it is actually the industrial one that is far and away the more important of the two. It is unclear to me whether this is something Poilievre plans to axe or not with his "Axe the tax" sloganeering.

Ultimately There is an optimistic version where Poilievre retains some subset of Trudeau's grand vision, jettisons the politically unpopular consumer portions, we miss our targets by a lot but still make progress. And there is a pessimistic version where he rips everything up root and stump, we abandon our international commitments entirely, and we do nothing but DRILLBABYDRILL natural gas. Time will tell.

how does the current form of the Canadian carbon tax work for imports? do they estimate CO2 emissions along the value chain or what else do they do?

Question for you if Justin says 80% of CDNs get more back than they pay how can he know how much every CDN pays in carbon tax ? Is it based on the estimated driving distance and the average to heat a home ?

It doesn’t it is only charged on consumption of fossil fuels in Canada

wait so if a company imports components / elements that require a lot of energy/fossil fuels to be made (glass, plastics, ceramics for example) that bypasses the carbon tax, while manufacturing them in Canada is fully taxed?