The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
Trudeau is citing the reports finding. You seem to have not read it but are imagining some methodological issues out of I guess just your feelings?
Ok I actually read the report and no where does it state how they calculate the cost per household of the carbon tax . Heck there was an e-mail address so i sent an e-mail and asked
Great for you! You’re going to be an economist in no time!
I do have one year college in Business 😀 Though I do know one thing Budgets don't balance themselves, You have to pay back the money you borrow and most CDN's pay more than they get back in reference to the carbon tax. Three things our PM knows nothing about
I do have one year college in Business 😀 Though I do know one thing Budgets don't balance themselves, You have to pay back the money you borrow and most CDN's pay more than they get back in reference to the carbon tax. Three things our PM knows nothing about
And economist say the opposite of you…
I remember back in the day when all the economist said the opposite of me that Bitcoin was worthless.
Exactly !
That is why I laugh at the video lozen posted .
It’s a video with no context that last 15sec, cut short , no idea what time frame he was speaking of and like you said , taking into account future economics results as proof that carbon taxes is in the end costing people money .
The fed with 100s of phd can’t predict 6 month in advance absolutely nothing about the economy but the PBO can lol .
Get over it lozen ….. tax carbon by itself in the vast majority of cases gives money back or the cost is nil to consumers .
But here a secret for you lozen , yes every taxes is possibly a negative about future economics growth because u reduce the money in the economy but it isn’t a certainty !
Hell the BoC and all the central bank in the world raised interest rates at like double the rates people though was impossible to do without a recession !
And here we are today still waiting !!!
And I promise you , a raise if 500 basis point in interest rates should clearly slow more the economy then the equivalent of the gaz tax in Alberta !!!
And it didn’t ….
So please with the almighty tax carbon will reduce the economy growth from a out of context video from the PBO lol .
Btw here is a thought lozen !
Let’s say after 5 years , tax carbon forced some company to innovate and because of it they find an amazing discovery about helping reduce emission ?
Oops no more problem in economic growth -> PBO wrong !
Tax carbon was beneficial and we can export the technology worldwide making tons of money ….
I guess your prayers been answered ?
Sorry it’s in French tho ….
All your narrative gets debunked.
They even admit that the tax carbon is the best and cheapest way to fight emissions .
It gives huge amount of flexibility for everyone to choose from through that taxe .
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/206...
165 économistes, professeurs et directeurs de départements, provenant des principales universités du pays, avaient signé une lettre ouverte pour rectifier les faits sur « la tarification sur le carbone », car actuellement, selon eux, le débat public sur le sujet « n'est pas sain » et n'est pas basé sur la réalité.
All around the country they all sign in favor of the carbon tax and they decide to do that letter since the majority of what we hear isn’t based on reality .
Ouch to you lozen ….
Nous encourageons les gouvernements à recourir à des politiques économiquement sensées pour réduire les émissions à faible coût, répondre aux préoccupations des Canadiens en matière d'abordabilité, maintenir la compétitivité des entreprises et soutenir la transition du Canada vers une économie à faibles émissions de carbone. La politique canadienne de tarification du carbone fait tout cela, écrit le professeur Lipsey.
Selon le directeur du département d'économie de l'Université Laval, Stephen Gordon, il est quasi unanime chez les économistes que la tarification sur le carbone est le meilleur moyen de lutter contre les changements climatiques.
It says they agree with the government following a policy to reduce emission cheaply and the tax carbon those exactly that .
It’s practically unanimously from the economists that tax carbon is the best way to fight emission !
Right there !
Read it !
Non seulement la tarification sur le carbone réduit les émissions, mais elle le fait à un coût inférieur à celui des autres approches, selon les économistes qui indiquent que c'est une question de gros bon sens, car lorsque quelque chose coûte plus cher (dans ce cas, les combustibles fossiles), les gens en consomment moins, c'est une question d'économie fondamentale.
What do you know ,
I’m surprise …..
They say tax carbon it’s the cheapest way, compare to all other alternatives , to reduce emissions .
And it’s based on common sense , if prices go up demands goes down !
My goodness who knew !
The law of demand and supply works for carbon tax too …..
Unbelievable!
C'est pourquoi la plupart des pays avancés — qu'ils aient ou non un prix sur le carbone — ont connu une inflation très similaire, rappellent les signataires.
Ils soulignent également que la plupart des familles reçoivent plus d'argent en remises qu'en tarification du carbone, en particulier celles à revenus faibles ou moyens.
Tax carbon seem Not be inflationary much because it already exist and the inflation rates in countries that have no carbon tax is similar with those countries that have carbon tax !
Another loss my good friend to you !
Ho yes most familly will receive more money , I repeat more money , I repeat they will receive more money -> then they pay lol……
Right here backing by 165 economist around Canada !
Is that good enough for you ???????
Selon les signataires, les critiques ont raison, le Canada pourrait atteindre ses objectifs de réduction de GES tout en abandonnant la tarification sur le carbone, mais cela coûterait beaucoup plus cher.
They all agree , if u don’t use the carbon tax , every other alternative will be more costly , more costly , more costly !!!!
U get that lozen ???
Les économistes concluent en écrivant que la tarification du carbone est le moyen le moins coûteux de réduire les émissions, de stimuler l'innovation verte et de soutenir la transition du Canada vers un avenir économique propre et prospère.
Again carbon tax will be the least costly and wtf did I tell you over many pages ?????
Promote innovation to be better !!!!
Ok u wanted economist u got a freakn huge load of them from all over the country ffs .
Your polievre just lie to you like a freakn trumpist !
Wake up !!!!
Please we want the lozen from 2018-19 coming back to reality, to us ….
Exactly !
That is why I laugh at the video lozen posted .
It’s a video with no context that last 15sec, cut short , no idea what time frame he was speaking of and like you said , taking into account future economics results as proof that carbon taxes is in the end costing people money .
The fed with 100s of phd can’t predict 6 month in advance absolutely nothing about the economy but the PBO can lol .
Btw here is a thought lozen !
Let’s say after 5 years , tax carbon forced some company to innovate and because of it they find an amazing discovery about helping reduce emission ?
Oops no more problem in economic growth -> PBO wrong !
Tax carbon was beneficial and we can export the technology worldwide making tons of money ….
Many of those companies are investing in the technology themselves.
I guess your prayers been answered ?
Sorry it’s in French tho ….
All your narrative gets debunked.
They even admit that the tax carbon is the best and cheapest way to fight emissions .
Maybe to lower Canada's emissions but we would be better off focusing on lowering other countries coal emissions by providing clean Natural Gas
It gives huge amount of flexibility for everyone to choose from through that taxe .
Sorry the corruption of Justin Trudeau lost you the Lozen of 2017-18
Here is the full video not just the clip
Broken YouTube LinkThere is this line that LNG is some panacea that scoffs when the Liberals point out the business case isn’t always there. But this Alberta Econ prof runs some numbers that the business case actually really might not be there: https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/177282...
There is this line that LNG is some panacea that scoffs when the Liberals point out the business case isn’t always there. But this Alberta Econ prof runs some numbers that the business case actually really might not be there: https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/177282...
Yet we have Germany, Japan and Greece asking Canada for LNG ?
You could be right the costs and red tape imposed by the Liberals may make it impossible.
Maybe. That is certainly Poiliebre's line. But just because he says something, doesn't make actual economists wrong.
Yet we have Germany, Japan and Greece asking Canada for LNG ?
You could be right the costs and red tape imposed by the Liberals may make it impossible.
U need to build sheep , ports, etc .
U have already massive competition from the U.S. .
Lng prices moves all over .
Take years to build .
Cost many billions of investment at 5% interest rates ?
But yes its Trudeau fault like always .
Many of those companies are investing in the technology themselves.
Sorry the corruption of Justin Trudeau lost you the Lozen of 2017-18
Here is the full video not just the clip
Well at least u seem to deny the exactitude of your false premise finally ….
Btw if only it was only about Justin we would wish to see the 2019 lozen , unfortunately it embraced every topic maga likes !
Certainly ain’t just Trudeau fault ….
Ps: before saying Justin Trudeau is corrupted -> did he got condemn in any court of laws ?
Isn’t that why you defend trump teeth and nails ?
Didn’t get condemn criminally yet ?
So why the double standard ?
U need to build sheep , ports, etc .
U have already massive competition from the U.S. .
Lng prices moves all over .
Take years to build .
Cost many billions of investment at 5% interest rates ?
But yes its Trudeau fault like always .
What do sheep have to do with it ?
Well at least u seem to deny the exactitude of your false premise finally ….
Btw if only it was only about Justin we would wish to see the 2019 lozen , unfortunately it embraced every topic maga likes !
Certainly ain’t just Trudeau fault ….
Ps: before saying Justin Trudeau is corrupted -> did he got condemn in any court of laws ?
Isn’t that why you defend trump teeth and nails ?
Didn’t get condemn criminally yet ?
So why the double standard ?
Well that is not how our system works as well when you block the RCMP from investigating you its tough to lay criminal charges
3 ethics violations and a massive lawsuit settlement for what he did show a long line of corruption.
Defend Trump tooth and nails I have said he is guilty in my opinion on two of the charges and should not be allowed to run for President. Though ill take him any day over Biden
What do sheep have to do with it ?
Well that is not how our system works as well when you block the RCMP from investigating you its tough to lay criminal charges
3 ethics violations and a massive lawsuit settlement for what he did show a long line of corruption.
Defend Trump tooth and nails I have said he is guilty in my opinion on two of the charges and should not be allowed to run for President. Though ill take him any day over Biden
typo
ship that cost easily 200 millions to build .
According to a (very) rough Marketplace estimate, one LNG tanker can carry enough gas for almost 50,000 U.S. homes for one year.
“There is limited numbers of LNG tankers globally,” said Anna Mikulska, a nonresident fellow at the Center for Energy Studies at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy. “So they are in general in short supply. And they will be highly valued, of course.”
About 700 LNG tankers are available for transport worldwide, and it takes about 2½ years to build a new one.
what lawsuit settlement ?
so corrupt liberal is not ok but corrupt conservative it is ok.
i got it now, thx.
There is this line that LNG is some panacea that scoffs when the Liberals point out the business case isn’t always there. But this Alberta Econ prof runs some numbers that the business case actually really might not be there: https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/177282...
Lol, nothing like "running the numbers" on a business case when the price of something is at a 2 year low. Like 20 LNG projects applied for approval under the Liberals. Maybe we should let the private sector and subject matter experts decide if there is a business case, not governments officials.
typo
ship that cost easily 200 millions to build .
what lawsuit settlement ?
so corrupt liberal is not ok but corrupt conservative it is ok.
i got it now, thx.
Admiral Mark Norman who Trudeau villified and defamed
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/0629-ed...
I am not sure how you can have conservative corruption when they are not in power when they are I hope we both call it out
lmao at lozen trying to dredge up a 5 year old story about Norman's actions who the crowd judge said were inappropriate, just not criminal. Anything to try and get mad at Trudeau it seems.
200+ Canadian economics with economics PhDs support the carbon tax and blast many of the idiotic talking points from the conservatives: https://sites.google.com/view/open-lette.... Remember, carbon pricing used to be the more conservative, market-based approach to dealing with carbon change, the current batch of politcos are all just making this stuff up: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-col...
200+ Canadian economics with economics PhDs support the carbon tax and blast many of the idiotic talking points from the conservatives: https://sites.google.com/view/open-lette.... Remember, carbon pricing used to be the more conservative, market-based approach to dealing with carbon change, the current batch of politcos are all just making this stuff up: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-col...
The fact that Uke will not admit that we could get to Net Zero tomorrow and it will have no effect on reducing forest fires or saving white Christmases . The reality is 1000 economists can say they support the carbon tax and the reality it just cost CDN's more and will do nothing in the overall climate situation .
Well at least Justin has a plan for renters that is more laughable than his climate plan
Axe the tax and axe Trudeau
