Covid-19 Discussion
Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.
Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.
Ventilators are not in shortage.
Treatments are being developed.
There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.
The devastation of the cure:
Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison
We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).
Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.
Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.
LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!
And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.
an abundance of caution in the face of a new threat is usually correct, and was so in 2020
2020 lockdowns were likely a mistake in hindsight, but completely fine/good given the info we had
subsequent lockdowns were simply harmful
The fact that they were being pimped so hard by the ruling class was sufficient information to know that they weren't there for the benefit of society-at-large.
sounds like you have succumbed to conspiratorial thinking again
absolutely not, given the threat wasn't new at all, we faced a long list if far more dangerous pathogens in the last 2k years. nothing new at all about an airborne respiratory disease.
and if anything, abundance of caution would suggest Yoh don't do anything you don't know with absolute certainty what will achieve. the last time in life you do something unprecedented is when panicking, obviously.
you didn't clearly state before you would lockdown if a respiratory disease arrives? you simply dont.
you don't do that unless you are absolutely certain it is absolutely indispensable for society survival to do so.
and you absolutely never without exception touch children unless it's for their direct benefit. never.
the rich get richer during everything
this is old and you can add another 15000 points, but you get the idea
We knew what sort of a threat covid was after the Diamond Princess in february 2020. i.e. Not much worse than the the annual flu.
a lot worse than the normal flu for elders, irrelevant for anyone else yes (for whites and Asians at least).
And far LESS relevant than the flu for kids, more akin to a cold already for them since the beginning.
it was adamantly clear already in March 2020 to any rational observer.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/o....
It couldn't have been too much later. We're only a couple years removed from it as is.
Bezos did pretty well out of lockdowns.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/o....
It couldn't have been too much later. We're only a couple years removed from it as is.
America didn't have the lockdowns I am talking about to begin with so you might be out of the loop of this conversation.
I am talking armed militaries with charged weapons stopping mothers with strollers in the street because gorgonian-like people thought that was science.
I am saying that was our generation holocaust and everyone responsible should get a Nuremberg like trial.
Please stop this line of thinking as it is incorrect. You don't seem to have the ability to research exactly where the world stood in March of 2020.
What is your background that makes you so confident that your opinion is better than virologists, immunologist etc ??
Please stop this line of thinking as it is incorrect. You don't seem to have the ability to research exactly where the world stood in March of 2020.
What is your background that makes you so confident that your opinion is better than virologists, immunologist etc ??
*again*, the opinion of epidemiologists and experts in the field was AGAINST LOCKDOWNS in Italy, UK, germany, in March 2020.
did you get that part?
what is your background to claim what the scientifical consensus was in March 2020? NBC news?
Remember the great barrington declaration?
These were thousands of virologists and immunologists that told you that.
You just wouldnt Listen to them because they were on the wrong side of the corruption/funding.
They were covidiots like anyone Else who disagreed with you.
Covid nazies were reigening.
It was a total farce. One in a lifetime idiocracy. The status quo in Action and all of you clapping like brainwashed seals. They called it mass psychosis and thats exactly what it was. And you supported it.
Remember the great barrington declaration?
These were thousands of virologists and immunologists that told you that.
You just wouldnt Listen to them because they were on the wrong side of the corruption/funding.
They were covidiots like anyone Else who disagreed with you.
Covid nazies were reigening.
It was a total farce. One in a lifetime idiocracy. The status quo in Action and all of you clapping like brainwashed seals.
GBD doesn't count because it's tens of thousands of experts who disagreed with leftist yes.
even if some of them where professors in ivy league universities, that ceases to matter when you disagree with the International left
Covid nazies...
Called everyone who even slightly diaagreed with them far right covidiots.
They were all publically rididuled as insane AND silenced. Entire Families and carreers were ended for this reason. You should all be ashamed.
Hindsight is 20 20
And yes it was the dems and nobody Else who is responsible. They politized it like nobody Else.
THERE WAS NOBODY FROM THE LEFT ON THESE ANTI LOCKDOWN DEMOS.
AND U KNOW IT.
The ones that were left on These Demos got butchered afterwards. Some turned right after.
Please stop this line of thinking as it is incorrect. You don't seem to have the ability to research exactly where the world stood in March of 2020.
What is your background that makes you so confident that your opinion is better than virologists, immunologist etc ??
Luciom is an expert scientist !
Amazing that with covid it just take a tiny amount of data’s to determine how dangerous a virus can be while a vaccine with billions of doses still isn’t enough sample size to determine if it’s dangerous or not !
Ho yes and when you have the tiny data’s it just take like 48 hours to know everything about it …..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline...
5 February
WHO Situation Report 16:[34]
China, in Wuhan now reported 10,117 cases in total, exceeding 10,000.[35] Tianjin, reported its first death. Chinese experts said that nucleic acid testing was only able to identify 30%–50% positive cases
Only 10k infection in Wuhan and by that time we knew everything!!
Amazing….
For adding some context on where the world was in February as a whole …
First cases in Europe :
Belgium -> 4th February
Austria, Croatia, Switzerland -> 25th February
Greece, Norway-> 26th February
Denmark -> 27th February
Iceland -> 28th February
Ireland, Luxembourg -> 29th February.
We all knew everything about Covid by March all right .
FWIW lockdown seem perfectly fine at that time , simple and effective way to lower danger for at least the first couples days anyhow …..
Some people like Luciom think it was holocaust those lockdown and others are just glad the cOvid mutation got less deadly instead of more deadly .
Great scientist like Luciom don’t appreciate the power of increase infection -> increases mutation risk .
Ps: 22th February is pretty much near to March right ?
Italy confirmed 59 more cases spread across three different administrative regions, bringing the total number to 79, making Italy the European country with the biggest number of cases of coronavirus infections.[230] The second death was also confirmed, an Italian woman from Lombardy.[231]
Covid nazies...
Called everyone who even slightly diaagreed with them far right covidiots.
They were all publically rididuled as insane AND silenced. Entire Families and carreers were ended for this reason. You should all be ashamed.
Hindsight is 20 20
Those people were wrong then, just like you are now.
Hindsight is only 20 20 if you have any idea what you're looking at.
You don't.
I remember the Diamond Princess. That told you pretty much all you needed to know.
Then the experts took over and it went downhill rapidly from there.
