Moderation Questions

you may just be mistaking one of them for a group

I still fail to see how it helps anything to criticize a group, including the group of "fat people". You are the one concentrating on the definition of a group, not me.
I'm concentrating on the fact that it doesn't help fix anything to criticize a group. Certainly not this group - people who are overweight know that it is generally unhealthy. And I think it is obvious (to me, and to most people) that obesity is affected by a number of factors, both genetic and environmental, just like nearly every physical trait.

if they know why do they keep eating **** lol.

and if they can't control themselves for the most basic functions, why do we allow them to be parents, to vote, to enter legally binding contracts?

Because no one is willing to put *******s like you in charge of anything.

Hang on. Now you think there's something with being fat?

You going to have a go at drinking properly next?

I am for freedom, I am against subsidizing other people mistakes though.

so free eating and drinking (in the "free to do" at your expenses), no taxes on both, and absolutely no public healthcare in any way or form.

pretty easy and coherent.

health is always and only a private matter anyway

You're entitled to believe all that. I totally disagree and am also quite happy to 'subsidize' the skinny folk

keep in mind it's your side pushing for "sugar taxes" and insane anti alcohol approaches in Ireland an Belgium, not my side.

I'm not overly familiar with that but I don't mind a few pence of my pint helping people like you.

Chez, lemme find out you are a professional salad dodger.

I love salad. yum nau is awesome

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a salad. Or something like that.

shut the **** up, chez

Hi trolly. How are you mate? Not a fan of thai food?

Except for Marxists, fatties and people I somehow believe I have to pay for.

Love Thai, no clue what you're babbling about.

Seriously? They eat because they're hungry, like everyone else. Do you think no one does anything they know is bad for them?

Do you seriously think overweight people shouldn't have standard rights of citizens? Nearly everyone has something they find difficult to control themselves with.

I think excuses for alcoholism and drug addiction are mostly stupid, because both are easily avoided. But you can't just avoid eating.

You can eat less same as you can drink one glass instead of two bottles.

Very hard to think you can't excuse drinking 2 bottles but you can excuse eating 5k calories per day.

Anyway, my take is they have a complete right to do what they want, just, no one else has to subsidize it.

Public healthcare shouldn't exist and everyone should pay for his own care, simple as that.

If someone wants insurance and a private market for it happens, good for them, that's no one else business.

There's no need cure anyone to drink one glass or any bottles of alcohol.
There are many people with a propensity to overindulge in anything.
Do you think it is easy for a drug addict to pass on using more drugs?

And yes, we all know your thoughts about public Healthcare. I ask you questions and you reply with things we already know that don't answer the question.

I don't think I should have to subsidize anything for others' children, but that's the way society works. I imagine you take advantage of the benefits given to you in your country.

I take full advantage of anything I can because that's a moral imperative in my moral system, what advantages me, my family and the people I care about is what is moral, and viceversa.

I don't understand the rest of your post.

If you drink two bottles per day you will cost more in healthcare than someone who doesn't ( on average).

Which is one of the many reasons why everyone should pay for his own healthcare

So you are of the opinion that people cannot control what and how much they eat in any way.

Everyone overeating is like an addict who can't control himself.

Ok let's say you are right.

We usually remove other rights from addicts because they have shown a lack of force of Will necessary to be normal functioning adults.

Would you agree about that for obese people then? Treating them like addicts legally?

If this argument has any force for you then what changes if the two bottles a day were cheaper?

What rights do we remove from addicts?

You still didn't answer my simple yes or no question. Obviously you're not intelligent enough to have a conversation.