The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.

Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.

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11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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Decent Interview by CBC though for a person that wants to stop disinformation and misinformation maybe he should start with himself

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/tr...


More proof the Carbon tax is political

Justin gives Quebec special treatment

Quebec's current carbon tax is $57 a ton the rest of Canada $80
Quebec's carbon tax on gas .12 a litre the rest of Canada .17 a litre
Quebec's carbon tax on NG heat .10 a cubic meter while the rest of Canada .15 a cubic meter

In 2030

Quebec's carbon tax $97 a ton the rest of Canada $170.00 a ton
Quebec's carbon tax on gas .23 a litre the rest of Canada .37 a litre


The cap and trade plan of Quebec has a price determined by the cap and trade market shared with external jurisdictions beyond Canada. There is a reasonable technocratic debate about cap and trade vs carbon taxes, but remember any province could propose a quebec like system. In effect ANY province can get "special treatment". They are only on the federal backstop when they fail to act.

But the truth is that the debate - sadly - in Canada as led by the conservatives isn't "Carbon Tax vs SOMETHING ELSE". It isn't a technocratic debate about whether to do cap and trade vs carbon tax. It is "Carbon Tax vs NOTHING". This is why I call it an "apples to nothing" comparison - compared to doing nothing at all, there are some marginal costs associated to the carbon tax even if nowhere near as big as any of the many other options to do something.

Apples to nothing. The poilievre way.


by lozen k

More proof the Carbon tax is political

Justin gives Quebec special treatment

Quebec's current carbon tax is $57 a ton the rest of Canada $80
Quebec's carbon tax on gas .12 a litre the rest of Canada .17 a litre
Quebec's carbon tax on NG heat .10 a cubic meter while the rest of Canada .15 a cubic meter

In 2030

Quebec's carbon tax $97 a ton the rest of Canada $170.00 a ton
Quebec's carbon tax on gas .23 a litre the rest of Canada .37 a litre

Again a misrepresentation of facts as usual ?
Quebec wasn’t giving nothing …..
U show even more your ignorance .

Ps: btw we do our part and oh My God , it works when prices go up to reduce emissions.
Who knew ….math still works in climate changes …

https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analys....

GHG Emissions
Quebec’s GHG emissions in 2020 were 76.2 megatonnes (MT) of carbon dioxide equivalent (CO2e).Footnote 1 Quebec’s emissions have declined 10% since 1990 and 12% since 2005.
Quebec’s emissions per capita are the lowest in Canada at 8.9 tonnes CO2e – 50% below the Canadian average of 17.7 tonnes per capita.

We do our part so leave Quebec out of your crazy narrative about carbon tax not working ….


by uke_master k

The cap and trade plan of Quebec has a price determined by the cap and trade market shared with external jurisdictions beyond Canada. There is a reasonable technocratic debate about cap and trade vs carbon taxes, but remember any province could propose a quebec like system. In effect ANY province can get "special treatment". They are only on the federal backstop when they fail to act.

But the truth is that the debate - sadly - in Canada as led by the conservatives isn't "Carbon Tax vs SOMETHING

+1

Yes lozen like all conservative , when markets works against them it’s unfair but when it’s work for them it’s fair .
Typical bs ….


by Montrealcorp k

Again a misrepresentation of facts as usual ?
Quebec wasn’t giving nothing …..
U show even more your ignorance .

Ps: btw we do our part and oh My God , it works when prices go up to reduce emissions.
Who knew ….math still works in climate changes …

Emissions haven't gone down yet

Quebec are nothing but a bunch of free loaders in Canada. Justin proves that he is letting get away with less carbon tax just like Atlantic Canada


lmao it of course isn't a surprise that lozen is suddenly screeching about quebec being on cap and trade and that having a different price than the carbon tax, because its making the rounds on right wing anti-climate change twitter. Gotta love Danielle smith getting eviscerated for her lies from the economist who made the graphic that is circulating


by lozen k

Emissions haven't gone down yet

Quebec are nothing but a bunch of free loaders in Canada. Justin proves that he is letting get away with less carbon tax just like Atlantic Canada

Why ?

You idiot , Quebec do not have any freakin rebate like others have till 2030 …..
All the stupidity u were defending about majority family won’t receive money , well guess what , it’s true for Quebec not receiving any checks from Trudeau for the carbon tax because we had our own system since 2013 !

And btw anyone could of join in and never did and they still can, but they won’t.
So wtf is your problem with your constant lies about almost every ****ing thing that isn’t bad $h!t crazy far right maga conservative ?
Wtf is wrong with you seriously .


by lozen k

Emissions haven't gone down yet

Quebec are nothing but a bunch of free loaders in Canada. Justin proves that he is letting get away with less carbon tax just like Atlantic Canada

You will send Quebec transfer monies and you will like it. 😃


by Montrealcorp k

Why ?

You idiot , Quebec do not have any freakin rebate like others have till 2030 …..
All the stupidity u were defending about majority family won’t receive money , well guess what , it’s true for Quebec not receiving any checks from Trudeau for the carbon tax because we had our own system since 2013 !

And btw anyone could of join in and never did and they still can, but they won’t.
So wtf is your problem with your constant lies about almost every ****ing thing that isn

You have me corrected that you do not get rebates . I did not know that So what you’re telling me your system is strictly about lowering emissions which you have done and not redistributing wealth .
So it’s not political either it’s just about lowering emissions

So I have been taken in by right wing media by them not giving all the facts .
I’m glad Justin and the CBC don’t do that when they tell us the carbon tax will solve the climate change problems of forest fires, heat domes and the lack of a white Christmas.
I’m glad Uke calls out all those lies as well

So the only check Quebecers get is the Alberta equalization payment check? (Joke)

So since you have lowered emissions in Quebec have the effects of climate change been reduced in Quebec?


by lozen k

You have me corrected that you do not get rebates . I did not know that So what you’re telling me your system is strictly about lowering emissions which you have done and not redistributing wealth .
So it’s not political either it’s just about lowering emissions

So I have been taken in by right wing media by them not giving all the facts .
I’m glad Justin and the CBC don’t do that when they tell us the carbon tax will solve the climate change problems of forest fires

Quebec pollute less that’s all that matter now and economically it works to reduce gas emissions shrug .

The total aggregate result of climate changes do not solely depends on Quebec but the good thing is the carbon market system actually work and hopefully seeing it to be better in the long run , more might join being encouraged by it .
I always try to put myself on being part of the solution instead being part of the problem…

Btw , the fruits of innovation get rewarded by those that actually do the works and we’re getting there !
Much better to be in front of the curve then behind and just your bs about Quebec was favorably treated was wrong .

Those that have a newly carbon tax today are those that didn’t do much $h!t before and now they are In a worst spot !
Don’t come complain afterwords , on those that actually did the work for a decade already and start bearing fruits, by pure jealousy…

Btw nothing prevent them to join the carbon market to get rid of the carbon tax …
Because they just won’t do anything about climate changes They don’t believe in it and they don’t care at all .
If it wasn’t the carbon tax it would be something else anyway , that is why after 30 years nothing been done yet !


Just great to see Justin spend spend spend. Im sure that will lower inflation and interest rates

Looks like his dental program is turning out to be a bust as many dentists refusing to participate


by lozen k

Just great to see Justin spend spend spend. Im sure that will lower inflation and interest rates

Looks like his dental program is turning out to be a bust as many dentists refusing to participate

Yup the corporatism in health care always is a big problem , dentist included .
Explains a lot of why we have difficulty in that domain .


by Montrealcorp k

Yup the corporatism in health care always is a big problem , dentist included .
Explains a lot of why we have difficulty in that domain .

I saw a piece on CTV on it and so many forms to fill out and contracts to sign that are grey. As well the fee structure is very low


by Montrealcorp k

Yup the corporatism in health care always is a big problem , dentist included .
Explains a lot of why we have difficulty in that domain .

Ya it's all the dentist and Dr's fault. Greedy, should just force them to work for free, it's worked before.


by Shifty86 k

Ya it's all the dentist and Dr's fault. Greedy, should just force them to work for free, it's worked before.

Don’t come complain it takes a long waiting time shrug .
Do you know how many immigrants are doctor that could do the job but they can’t because of the doctors corporatism for example .
Or many services a simple nurse or pharmacist could do but they can’t too ?

You would surprise ….


by Montrealcorp k

Don’t come complain it takes a long waiting time shrug .
Do you know how many immigrants are doctor that could do the job but they can’t because of the doctors corporatism for example .
Or many services a simple nurse or pharmacist could do but they can’t too ?

You would surprise ….

I never knew the CMA or Nurses union runs the country. Reality is each is run by the provinces. Maybe the premiers could request a meeting on this with Justin?

Maybe just maybe the program is majorly flawed ? You here the same complaints about the Heat Pump rebates at all the paperwork required.


by lozen k

I never knew the CMA or Nurses union runs the country. Reality is each is run by the provinces. Maybe the premiers could request a meeting on this with Justin?

Maybe just maybe the program is majorly flawed ? You here the same complaints about the Heat Pump rebates at all the paperwork required.

I have no idea what u mean and his u can join those 2 topic together ….
Many services doctors provided are dearly restricted to doctors which do not necessitate a doctor to provide it .
Here in Quebec they tried to enhance nurse qualification and pharmacist to be able to do a little more but got furious opposition by doctors .
Example not needing to see a doctors to renew medication for 6 months for example .
A simple pharmacist could do it .
Same with nurse dealing with sone common health problems , etc .

I won’t go through it all but it just facts .
There is as well huge amount of re qualification from foreign doctors to do to be able to provide healthcare .

Doctors today are just a business , hell now it comes to if I ever have 2-3 small problems , doctors said I can only speak about one , the other I need to take another appointments !!!
How sick that is ….

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5061506

Canadian health care's 'one issue per visit' problem has been around for a long time and is widely regarded as a symptom of the fee-for-service system — where physicians bill the government per appointment rather than draw a salary.

No wonder the wait is long …
So again , private sector is more about making money instead of a better taxpayers services .
We already see it while we don’t even have much of a private health care system !


Even the BC NDP's cant escape corruption on Grants

The one company making hybrid big rigs for logging denied grants . Than there told if they use MNP to file for the grants they will get them but MNP gets 20% . Guess who the government hired to oversee the grant program ? MNP

Broken YouTube Link

Looks like BC folks getting tired of the NDP as well


Bill Exposes Canada

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More dirty secrets about the carbon tax . Justin's lies or as he calls it disinformation

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstori...


Opinion piece from a business man that hate taxes vs 165 prominent economists.
FWIW I know no business that would actually be for more taxation .

I’m siding with the 99.4% and you with the .6% shrug .
(Pretty much the exact ratio of the anti climate change crowd vs science and maths…😉

And yes not all will receive same amount of rebates (if any ) since not everyone have the same consumption ….


by lozen k

Bill Exposes Canada

Finally you post something that I can agree most of it about and the reason I won’t vote JT .
Doesn’t mean I vote for even worst with polievre …

If only the reform party wouldn’t had evicted the PC in its entirety ….from the “PC” .


by lozen k

More dirty secrets about the carbon tax . Justin's lies or as he calls it disinformation

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstori...

Small businesses should get 0% in rebates and pass on any price increases to consumers since consumers get the rebates. The government approach of only focusing on a few places that are particularly affected by both the tax AND international trade is absolutely correct policy.


by lozen k

Bill Exposes Canada

I don't normally watch your bad youtube videos but I was distracted with something else so let it play out. It was across the board bad - typical for you and typical for Mayer - but it did hammer in one point. Mayer starts with various selectively chosen but unenviable economic data. No casual explanation offered. But then the big WHY? Well wokism! And then suddenly it is that big tits person lozen was so obsessed with in the trans thread for ages, no shocker this video calls to him here. Anyways, the point is this: so much of the claims of wokism run amok are really just about trans issues. That's the example. How that connects with anything at all about housing and doctors and unemployment from earlier in the video we never learn, but at the moment of why the evil woke left is so bad, its to literally point and laugh at someone.

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