How Would You Play JJ Here in 3BP?
Only 40ish hands at the time. WWSF was 1/6 and he did snap bet the turn. All other timing decisions seemed normal.
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software
NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO (136.7BBs)
BB (441BBs) [VPIP: 27.6% | PFR: 25.9% | AGG: 38.7% | Hands: 58]
UTG (59.6BBs) [VPIP: 24.1% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 30]
HJ (103.8BBs) [VPIP: 31.1% | PFR: 26.7% | AGG: 29.4% | Flop Agg: 28.6% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 25% | 3Bet: 14.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 46]
CO (26.8BBs) [VPIP: 35% | PFR: 15% | AGG: 25.9% | Hands: 40]
BTN (102.7BBs) [VPIP: 7.7% | PFR: 3.8% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 27]
Dealt to Hero: J♣ J♦
UTG Folds, HJ Raises To 2.2BBs, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To 10BBs, BB Folds, HJ Calls 7.8BBs
Hero SPR on Flop: [4.46 effective]
Flop (21BBs): 2♠ 6♠ 9♣
HERO Bets 10BBs (Rem. Stack: 116.7BBs), HJ Calls 10BBs (Rem. Stack: 83.8BBs)
Turn (41BBs): 2♠ 6♠ 9♣ 4♠
HERO Checks, HJ Bets 25.7BBs (Rem. Stack: 58BBs), HERO Calls 25.7BBs (Rem. Stack: 91BBs)
River (92.4BBs): 2♠ 6♠ 9♣ 4♠ 4♥
HERO Checks, HJ Bets 58BBs (allin),
I think people find it generally unattractive to bluff smaller sizes because they get called so much more often.
Yeah agreed, the turn stab of B30 is almost like a please call me bet.
It makes sense when you think about it that way but I think the majority of people will assume bigger turn stab = stronger range.
If the turn is a 4c and we check and villain stabs we jam turn. If you are asking what is the difference between a C-B-B line when a FCT and a FD bricks out the difference will be 2%-3% at least. I don't have exact data for missed FD but FCT is 2% under average and usually missed FD's are over average in most spots.
Actually I found something that is pretty unintuitive in going through this data.
a C30-B30-B line is stronger than both a C30-B50-B line and C30-B70-B line (yeah I know it is C50-B-B
Ya, it's a bad hypothetical I guess, since we wouldn't get to that point on the river if we played it correct.
As far as the data, seems intuitive to me. Those please call me turn sizings have always been big tells.
Ya, it's a bad hypothetical I guess, since we wouldn't get to that point on the river if we played it correct.
As far as the data, seems intuitive to me. Those please call me turn sizings have always been big tells.
Yeah I guess intuition is a bit subjective since everyone thinks about poker differently even if they arrive at the same conclusion. I was surprised with the data myself.
It reminds me of triple barrels in BvB (speaking of non-intuitive to me). The Flush complete river from a Front door flush draw compared to a Backdoor flush show's significant discrepancies that can't be reconciled by low sample size arguments. The Backdoor flush complete is a much stronger river range when triple barreled over a front door flush complete
