I believe men to be the oppressed in American society.

I believe men to be the oppressed in American society.

I am wondering if violence against women in the western world is a result of opression and frustration from men who are not treated with respect but are made to work much harder and more difficult jobs than anyone else.

I have been considering the number of men incarcerated(and for how long), I think of the number of men killed in wars and I think about the number of men who are homeless(compared to women) and lastly I think about male suicide rates (due to lack of perceived value by society)

I am not saying the violence against women is acceptable or should be tolerated.

I am saying let’s look at how society treats men and women and let’s see if it’s fair.

Feminism is equality for the sexes. Let’s talk about the inequalities men face

Not sure how to quantify the abuses women face from men and vice versa

11 November 2023 at 02:23 PM
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by Gonzirra k

Who do you think started the wars and instituted the draft? Last time we had a draft there were like 2 women in the Senate and a dozen in the House.

That doesn’t mean that men aren’t being oppressed.

That means that men oppress men.


by PointlessWords k

That doesn’t mean that men aren’t being oppressed.

That means that men oppress men.

So in a nutshell you're talking about toxic masculinity. The state of mind that creates bullying, domination over others, and fascism.

Here's a thought experiment for you... Would we have wars if men of this nature weren't projecting their toxicity onto the world, and believing they need to defend against the very thing they themselves create?

Would women pick up the slack for men here? Or would self awareness end the historical cycle of violence, and usher in reason and compromise?


by d2_e4 k

First of all, I have children.

Secondly, I would not be introducing them to Andy Tate. Unless, I want them raped, which I do not.

Yeah that gobshite actually made me root for Greta Thumberg...I still haven't forgiven him for that. (Oh or the sex trafficking and rapes)


by d2_e4 k

First of all, I have children.

No you don't.


by PointlessWords k

That’s not exclusive of oppression so not sure why you said that?

I was being sarcastic when I said it’s not oppression

Of course its oppression.


by washoe k

No you don't.

Would you believe me if I showed you a youtube video with some random montage and an AI generated voice explaining how the illuminati were behind the whole affair?


Maybe


by washoe k

Maybe

Lol, who are you kidding? Of course you would, you would believe that invisible aliens had landed in your back yard if a youtube video told you they had.


No, i called. Now youre supposed to showdown.


by washoe k

No, i called. Now youre supposed to showdown.

I don't know what you called - I was in a different casino, in a different country, playing blackjack.


by FreakDaddy k

So in a nutshell you're talking about toxic masculinity. The state of mind that creates bullying, domination over others, and fascism.

Here's a thought experiment for you... Would we have wars if men of this nature weren't projecting their toxicity onto the world, and believing they need to defend against the very thing they themselves create?

Would women pick up the slack for men here? Or would self awareness end the historical cycle of violence, and usher in reason and compromise?

At least you don't hide your will to emasculate society


by Luciom k

At least you don't hide your will to emasculate society

The guys who think they are being emasculated are the ones who need it most

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