Is it OK to Probably Injure Traffic Blocking Protester to Possibly Save Life?
Let's be explicit so everyone is on the same page. This is unfortunately not a purely hypothetical question except for the preciseness I am hypothesizing.
You are driving your mother to the hospital along a route that you have every reason to believe is clear. But it's not, because of a protest. A protest that would not legally be allowed to totally block traffic as they are doing. Because of cars stopped behind you, the protest adds 20% to the probability your mother will die. If you slowly plow through the protest, there is an 80% chance that you will injure someone fairly seriously but no chance you will kill somebody. Are you wrong to do that? Should it be illegal? Does it matter what the protest is about?
(I think most of you will say it's OK. To those that did, what if the mother death probability went up by only 5%, the protester death probability went from zero to 70% and the policy being protested was clearly bad?)
Except that you run into the argument that if a certain degree of merit is required to get the benefits of America if you immigrate from another country, why should those benefits be given to those who immigrate from inside an American women when they demonstrate that their merit is not enough to give back to the country than what they are given. Should pure luck determine that those born outside our country have a much worse life than the 90% of Americans who presently should thank their lucky
You’d need to subscribe to a very robust form of Luck Egalitarianism to have this thought. For a strong analysis/rebuttal of this kind of egalitarianism, I recommend reading Elizabeth Anderson’s essay What’s the Point of Equality. https://www.philosophy.rutgers.edu/jooml...
That said, the idea of a pure merit-based means of determining citizenship is probably equally dumb.
You’d need to subscribe to a very robust form of Luck Egalitarianism to have this thought. For a strong analysis/rebuttal of this kind of egalitarianism, I recommend reading Elizabeth Anderson’s essay What’s the Point of Equality. https://www.philosophy.rutgers.edu/jooml...
That said, the idea of a pure merit-based means of determining citizenship is probably equally dumb.
I think you may be misreading my thoughts on this matter. I believe that if you possess some neat headset that you want to give away, you should prefer to give it to a teenager living in Cambodia who is planning to be a dentist than an American teenager who could do the same but instead plans to work at Walmart and then watch TV while high the rest of the day. Not wanting to reward someone for good luck is different than going out of my way to help everyone who has bad luck.
What you don't get, is that those masses didn't receive any state welfare when they were let in the country. Nothing
What you don’t get is that you’re prob wrong and even if you’re not, the state used these people as soldiers in the states conquest for power. Without the vast numbers of immigrants Americans recruited since 1776, we wouldn’t have been able to help win the wars against the Germans.
Also people used to get free land just if they could get to it. Don’t tell me there wasn’t free welfare. Smart guy
I feel this thread has veered from its true calling, which is obviously discussing the most efficient vehicular methods of dispensing with the red menace. OP keeps trying to hijack his thread for his own ends, but just ignore him.
What do we think of this bad boy?
That's for pussies.
This is what you want. 
Cv, why have I never heard of this movie? Is it bad or a cult favorite?
Dead Reckoning is the name of the vehicle. The film is called Land Of The Dead.
Thanks chill, I am a buff of bad action movies.
Dead Reckoning is the name of the vehicle. The film is called Land Of The Dead.
Damn, that came out in 2005? Based on the clip I would have guessed 1985 at the latest.
The first film in the series came out in the 70s, and they seem to have mostly tried to keep the same esthetic for the many sequels.
First was actually in 1968, although my personal favourite of the series actually is from 1985. Special FX are still pretty jaw dropping 40 years later.
South Park recreated a scene from it as a homage in their living dead homeless episode (1:50 in music vid)
Yeah the original Night of the Living Dead came out in 1968, but I think the general esthetic of the series started with Dawn Of The Dead in 1978. The first one was extremely low budget and wasn't even in color!
I've got the Simpsons on my mind tonight...
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