British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
It would have happened with or without Brexit
The migrant movement from hot dictatorial places to temperate democratic places obviously has nothing to do with Brexit, and France and other EU countries are collecting an awful lot of it, and Ireland is now starting to get its share of the bother. As far as the small boats are concerned, organised crime (largely based in Turkey, I think), which runs the whole show, couldn't give a damn about Brexit, it just wants the stupid sums of money that people are apparently prepared to pay for a substandard 'service' that may end up killing their children in the crush to board the overloaded inflatables, as we have recently seen.
The migrant movement from hot dictatorial places to temperate democratic places obviously has nothing to do with Brexit, and France and other EU countries are collecting an awful lot of it, and Ireland is now starting to get its share of the bother. As far as the small boats are concerned, organised crime (largely based in Turkey, I think), which runs the whole show, couldn't give a damn about Brexit, it just wants the stupid sums of money that people are apparently prepared to pay for a substan
Like Hungary and Poland?
Or maybe those nationalities are different in some way to Africans. Hmm can't think what that could be. You're sounding quite Enoch-adjacent here.
The migrant movement from hot dictatorial places to temperate democratic places obviously has nothing to do with Brexit, and France and other EU countries are collecting an awful lot of it, and Ireland is now starting to get its share of the bother. As far as the small boats are concerned, organised crime (largely based in Turkey, I think), which runs the whole show, couldn't give a damn about Brexit, it just wants the stupid sums of money that people are apparently prepared to pay for a substan
The brexit point is nothing whatsover to do with the extent of migrant flow into Europe.
The migrant movement from hot dictatorial places to temperate democratic places obviously has nothing to do with Brexit, and France and other EU countries are collecting an awful lot of it, and Ireland is now starting to get its share of the bother. As far as the small boats are concerned, organised crime (largely based in Turkey, I think), which runs the whole show, couldn't give a damn about Brexit, it just wants the stupid sums of money that people are apparently prepared to pay for a substan
Ireland has had mass migration for two decades now. We're getting more simply due to the Rwanda bill.
I’m sure that it would have played out somewhat differently without Brexit, the fundamental issue would be the same though. The Farage narrative would have been “If only we had left the EU, we would be able to fully control our borders”.
I’m not sure we would be particularly up for working together with other EU countries on this issue, even if we were still in EU.
Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting to bring photo ID
Former PM made the requirement to bring photo ID a stipulation of the Elections Act in 2022
Probably deliberate by Johnson to play up to his image.
Possibly. I thought it was very unfair that he was deposed as pm for being an incompetent lying buffoon. That is the platform he stood on.
I forgot the word **** as well
I still think he'd make a good Dr Who. He just has the look.
He can be Dr ****ing Who for the rest of his life if it means he doesn't get anywhere near Parliament as far as I'm concerned.
All the other countries within the EU are constantly squabbling about migrants, so yes I suppose we'd be no different.
As is common unfortunately, we act to make things worse and then use the fact that they are worse to justify the actions.
That's not to dismiss how difficuly the issue is. We need a huge cooperative effort on many big issues. I repeat that brexit has made this harder and all of us are weaker for it (except the far right who exploit it so well)
As is common unfortunately, we act to make things worse and then use the fact that they are worse to justify the actions.
That's not to dismiss how difficuly the issue is. We need a huge cooperative effort on many big issues. I repeat that brexit has made this harder and all of us are weaker for it (except the far right who exploit it so well)
Worse for whom, and why?
worse for refugees. Worse for non extremists. Worse for democrcay, worse for reasonabless, worse for progressiveness, worse for dealing with climate change. worse for standign up to the usa. I could go on
why? just my opinion i suppose. I like democracy, etc etc etc, i f you mean why woill it get worse? then imo it's because we need to work together.
As is common unfortunately, we act to make things worse and then use the fact that they are worse to justify the actions.
That's not to dismiss how difficuly the issue is. We need a huge cooperative effort on many big issues. I repeat that brexit has made this harder and all of us are weaker for it (except the far right who exploit it so well)
Has it weakened the UK's potential ability to control its borders? Has it weakened the electorate to be able to throw out/vote in politicians acting on their behalf wit respect to migration (or anything else). I'd assert it's significantly strengthened, not weakened, these things.
What nonsense you assert as fact.
