Talk About Movies: Part 4

Talk About Movies: Part 4

Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.

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Fall Guy - good fun. Appropriately great stunts. Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt make the romance work.


by Rooksx k

There's Still Tomorrow - A black and white Italian neorealist film set in 1946 about a battered wife. Delia is regularly beaten up by her husband but her tie to her daughter, and possibly some lack of courage, prevent her from leaving. It's nowhere near as dour as it sounds, actually being quite funny at times.

There's an excellent, uncomfortable scene where her husband beating her is intermingled with them dancing. I think it shows how normalised these beatings have become. Delia is able to fi

Wow. I've never heard of this one. I was thinking it was made in 1946. Didn't realize it's new..

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by Rooksx k

Fall Guy - good fun. Appropriately great stunts. Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt make the romance work.

Saw this yesterday and enjoyed it. It wasn't amazing or anything but I was entertained throughout even though it felt 30 minutes too long.

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There were a few parts which made it clear that they had a list of major movie stunts they were going to film no matter what and they struggled to make the plot work with getting to those stunts.


by Bluegrassplayer k

Saw this yesterday and enjoyed it. It wasn't amazing or anything but I was entertained throughout even though it felt 30 minutes too long.

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There were a few parts which made it clear that they had a list of major movie stunts they were going to film no matter what and they struggled to make the plot work with getting to those stunts.

Yeah, the plot was like 80% successful in being a credible excuse for the stunts.


by biggerboat k

Just finished Apocalypse Now - Redux

I remember watching this right after it came out, and not really caring one way or the other about it. I've caught bits and pieces since but never sat down and watched it from beginning to end. I really enjoyed it this time around.

Has one of my favorite movie scenes.

This is a wonderful movie, but I never recommend it to people because they always patiently explain to me that it isn't.


by Phat Mack k

This is a wonderful movie, but I never recommend it to people because they always patiently explain to me that it isn't.

It was amazing to see this when it first came out and hear the helicopters moving around you. We weren't used to that surround sound.

Marlon Brando reading "The Hollow Men"!

That opening credit sequence!

The cast!

(I'm glad the film did not include the plantation scene in the Redux version.)

And just read about how Sheen went about that opening scene!

Maybe it's a "men's" film, but even if that's true, and it probably is, it's one of the great films of all time.

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if someone tried to explain to me why apocalypse now wasn't an amazing film I would be very grateful to them for letting me know I never had to take their opinion seriously.

always nice when ppl like that identify themselves.


The Fall Guy was just ok...charming leads, of course, but the script was a bit of a mess.


I don't get all the hate for Lamb... I saw it for the first time last night and I thought it was beautifully shot from a technical perspective, I love the pacing and I really started to get that birth of Christ feeling for the first 45 minutes or so, even if the ending left me going... huh.

I think Noomi Rapace is an amazing actor.


I also watched Raoul Walsh's 1930 The Big Trail with John Wayne and Tyrone Power (as an antagonist).

the scale and visual appeal of this film is amazing. The film is filled with beautiful short depth of field shots, wonderful camera movement and a cast of literally THOUSANDS.


the ^ composition is beautiful.


by John Cole k

It was amazing to see this when it first came out and hear the helicopters moving around you. We weren't used to that surround sound.

Marlon Brando reading "The Hollow Men"!

That opening credit sequence!

The cast!

(I'm glad the film did not include the plantation scene in the Redux version.)

And just read about how Sheen went about that opening scene!

Maybe it's a "men's" film, but even if that's true, and it probably is, it's one of the great films of all time.

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Redux has some flaws. I haven't seen the original cut, but read that nearly every scene which I felt was out of place in Redux wasn't in the original.


A'redux is horribly Bloated... HOWEVER, I am supremely thankful that we have it to view.


Rewatched The Martian for the first time since seeing it in theatres. I didn’t like it as much as I thought I did.

It’s solid technically, but pretty mid overall.


i thought the martian was stupid and patronizing

great, i get to hear a monologue about matt damon telling me he's a pirate because he farms, this is the life i always wanted


The Martian isn't even noteworthy fore the complete lack of respect for any sense of reality from the Newtonian perspective.

We are supposed to be excited and fearful that our main protagonist is jeopardized and at risk of life and limb when the writers will 'magically' fictionalize true life for positive resolution, and therefore undermine scientific realism. The Martian is a cinematic children's story.

The ONLY WAY that this movie would have been successful and enjoyable, in my mind, is for the main character to die a slow and painful death while the rest of us on earth watched helplessly from afar and this would make us reflect on the nature of humanity and in fact our own humanity as we question our place in the cosmos.

This Martin might as well just have been a person trapped in a mine underground while we all watch them slowly bleed their remaining life... Ace in the Hole.

Mar's was a macguffin.


oh yes... I am in a BAD mood today.
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I have thought that a dissertation on writers of all kinds would make for a nice project. In the old days the screenwriting was seen as the true author of the film. The change came with the auteur theory. Previously, there had been no need to even watch the film to critique it; only reading the screenplay was necessary.

I would like to trace the differences between how writers were portrayed before the director was seen as the film's and after.

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I would like to know what c*cksucker was the first writer to suspend disbelief... and I am not talking religious text.

I do think that exemplary writing CAN be achieved without having to explicitly use the eyes of a realist... but relying on overt fictionality as a crutch by which we resolve a story is just pissing me right off!

Goddamn it.


Anyone else here think that Mr. Spock was far more Human than even J. Tiberious Kirk or 'Bones' McCoy?
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by MSchu18 k

I would like to know what c*cksucker was the first writer to suspend disbelief... and I am not talking religious text.

I do think that exemplary writing CAN be achieved without having to explicitly use the eyes of a realist... but relying on overt fictionality as a crutch by which we resolve a story is just pissing me right off!

Goddamn it.

The willing suspension of disbelief is from Coleridge talking about Shakespeare. But good writers don't force you to suspend disbelief. It just happens and we accept what is offered.

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by MSchu18 k

Anyone else here think that Mr. Spock was far more Human than even J. Tiberious Kirk or 'Bones' McCoy?
:p

that was the whole point


yeah, the plantation scene and extra playboy bunny scenes were cut for a reason...no real need for them - although, the plantation scene has some of the most amazing set design and cinematography of the whole movie


by MSchu18 k

The Martian isn't even noteworthy fore the complete lack of respect for any sense of reality from the Newtonian perspective.

Pretty sure Martian wasn't about Newtonian physics.

If you want to do away with the suspension of disbelief, do away with American politics, but be forewarned, anyone who thought either Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton was remotely qualified to be President is to far down the rabbit hole to be recovered.

Movies are a lie. They don't move. They are merely a succession of still images.


by John Cole k

In the old days the screenwriting was seen as the true author of the film. The change came with the auteur theory. Previously, there had been no need to even watch the film to critique it; only reading the screenplay was necessary.

Show your work.

Is there a critique of The General that was written without seeing it?

Goddard admits that auteur theory was a scam.


by MSchu18 k

I also watched Raoul Walsh's 1930 The Big Trail with John Wayne and Tyrone Power (as an antagonist).

the scale and visual appeal of this film is amazing. The film is filled with beautiful short depth of field shots, wonderful camera movement and a cast of literally THOUSANDS.


the ^ composition is beautiful.

This is a great movie. It is free to stream from a bunch of places, and, as mentioned, beautiful to watch.

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