$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition
I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.
I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.
I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.
My expectation for each limit is as follows:
Expected Winrates for each limit:
5NL: 30bb/100
10NL: 25bb/100
25NL: 20bb/100
50NL: 15bb/100
100NL: 12bb/100
200NL: 10bb/100
Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park numbers. Once I hit 25k I will take a 10buyin shot at 500nl! As far as moving up I'll move up whenever I feel like it, but probably after winning 30-40 buyins at the limit.
There will be no cherry picking here since you can't cherry pick a Bankroll Challenge. Wish me luck (or not) and follow along in this thread.
i think it's a reference to this
Thanks but I don't get it.
One is a prop bet he proposed that never happened.
And the other is some he said she said about paying some pool game bet.
Where is this thing where he scammed a prop bet?
idk we'll need to ask op, i also want to hear about the drugging incident
perhaps he was referencing that viffer had a lot of side bets on durr for the durr challenge and since that never finished he considered them voided and canceled all action after waiting 5 years - which many feel is reasonable but the people who were currently winning obviously felt was unfair
had he canceled within a few month or whatever i could see it as him just trying to get out of a losing position but after waiting all those years i think it's fair
I hereby award user InfiniteLand23456 10 out of 10 Dunning Kruger points! Great success buddy!
When you get banned and make a new account (we know you will since you are heavily invested in this thread).
It will be very easy to identify you based on how you post so we can easily ban you again.
Yes Moderators are here to maintain order.
You offer nothing of value except calling everyone names and spreading vitriol. Hopefully other people can help me out and report your posts as well.
It is always the same. When this doodoo guy feels criticized he calls the moderator to block the person. The biggest scammer, but doesn't tolerate criticism himself. This should be a free forum where everyone can write whatever they want. This DooDoo Guy should have been banned a long time ago - he is the poison in this forum that no one needs. An impossible person who is highly narcissistic, a huge braggart and liar.
Oh get a life kendoo. This is beyond tedious now
Two cool spots. One is a concept I still mess up so need to get better at it. One is a spot which I know pretty well. Two HH's.
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software
NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($11.24) [VPIP: 29.2% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.4% | Turn Agg: 34% | River Agg: 37.7% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Cold Call: 9.4% | Hands: 337830]
UTG ($5.24) [VPIP: 29.7% | PFR: 18.9% | AGG: 52.9% | Flop Agg: 57.1% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 60% | 3Bet: 15% | 4Bet: 33.3% | Hands: 38]
HJ ($5.23) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 83.3% | Hands: 38]
CO ($5.09) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 13]
BTN ($5.04) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 19.4% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 32]
SB ($1.26) [VPIP: 55.6% | PFR: 55.6% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 9]
Dealt to Hero: A♦ J♣
UTG Raises To $0.12, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $0.07
Hero SPR on Flop: [19.69 effective]
Flop ($0.26): J♠ 7♦ 4♦
HERO Checks, UTG Bets $0.08 (Rem. Stack: $5.04), HERO Calls $0.08 (Rem. Stack: $11.04)
Turn ($0.42): J♠ 7♦ 4♦ 9♠
HERO Checks, UTG Bets $0.30 (Rem. Stack: $4.74), HERO Calls $0.30 (Rem. Stack: $10.74)
River ($1.02): J♠ 7♦ 4♦ 9♠ J♦
HERO Bets $0.32 (Rem. Stack: $10.42), UTG Raises To $2 (Rem. Stack: $2.74), HERO Calls $1.68 (Rem. Stack: $8.74)
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UTG shows: 9♦ 8♦
UTG wins: $4.77
This spot is interesting, so this is something I still mess up. We do NOT want the A♦ here because his bluffs contain the A♦. It doesn't matter that we block value since we actually block more bluffs than value here.
Note: I should of gone B10 OTR not B25.
Spot #2.
This is a pure fold in a solver. But we need to look at two data points.
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software
NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.37) [VPIP: 29.2% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.4% | Turn Agg: 34% | River Agg: 37.7% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 337830]
BTN ($11.04) [VPIP: 29.7% | PFR: 18.9% | AGG: 52.9% | Flop Agg: 57.1% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 60% | 3Bet: 15% | Fold to 3Bet: 33.3% | 4Bet: 33.3% | Hands: 38]
SB ($5.19) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 83.3% | Hands: 38]
BB ($5.23) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 19.4% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 32]
Dealt to Hero: A♦ J♦
HERO Raises To $0.13, BTN Raises To $0.38, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.25
Hero SPR on Flop: [6.01 effective]
Flop ($0.83): 9♣ J♣ 2♦
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.26 (Rem. Stack: $10.40), HERO Calls $0.26 (Rem. Stack: $4.73)
Turn ($1.35): 9♣ J♣ 2♦ 6♦
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.92 (Rem. Stack: $9.48), HERO Calls $0.92 (Rem. Stack: $3.81)
River ($3.19): 9♣ J♣ 2♦ 6♦ Q♠
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $9.48 (allin), HERO ?
Data point #1
Missed BDFD----->increases bluffing frequencies. Interesting to note that RB vs Two-tone board discrepancies here in COvsBTN3BET B30-B-B lines.
Data point #2
River overcard on J high board.
The aggregate is 29weak here but these two data points are overbluffed----->call river.
Note: There is also a 3rd option ---->Villain might be a fish which means we call since they overbluff the OB line here.
Definitely getting out of hand in here. Some of the criticisms towards DDP seem deserved, but dozens of posts completely derailing a personal blog primarily by a couple accounts is not a good look.
I am not entirely sold on DDP or his game, but I think that makes for an enjoyable thread. DDP posts interesting hands, shares some solid mda insights both here and in other subforums, and it will be fun to see how this challenge pans out and if he can walk the walk with a consistent climb and high winrate.
Can we just enjoy the journey? Coming into someone's personal blog posting long streams of baseless speculation about doctored graphs or accusing op of scamming players with mda coaching doesn't make anyone a superhero or "defender of the poker community," it makes them an ass.
In 6 months this whole thing will either have flamed out or will be a log really showing everyone that he's a successful player playing a solid mda-orienyrd game. Either result would be pretty telling regarding most of the bs that's been clogging this thread lately. Take a breath and let the guy play some hands.
best post above me
How come you aren't raising the flop in any of those two hands, DooDoo? Do you have an exploitative reason for it?
I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.
I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.
I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.
My expectation for each limit is as follows:
Expected Winrates for each limit:
5NL: 30bb/100
10NL: 25bb/100
25NL: 20bb/100
50NL: 15bb/100
100NL: 12bb/100
200NL: 10bb/100
Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park num
No reason that a good player with a good strategy can't win at these rates on reg tables without running unusually good or bad. idk why there are so many haters.
I'd rather see DDP play 200/500NL and see what he can do there. He seems very intelligent and has a strategy that is ahead of most - playing these peanut stakes seems like a massive waste of time but to each their own.
I'd rather see DDP play 200/500NL and see what he can do there. He seems very intelligent and has a strategy that is ahead of most - playing these peanut stakes seems like a massive waste of time but to each their own.
Personally also would be more interested, but as proof of success for prospective students of all stakes this thread succeeding would be pretty good as a challenge. His style putting up a crushing wr at micros and lowstakes during the climb would be a great advertisement for a lot of players. Either is interesting imo.
How come you aren't raising the flop in any of those two hands, DooDoo? Do you have an exploitative reason for it?
Yeah it's exploitative. I don't XR AJ here since the turn A is overbluffed and I will reverse dominate my opponent a lot if I hit. I'd rather XR QJ/JT since we are more incentivized to do so.
Yeah it's exploitative. I don't XR AJ here since the turn A is overbluffed and I will reverse dominate my opponent a lot if I hit. I'd rather XR QJ/JT since we are more incentivized to do so.
So because the QJ and JT are more likely to be faced with difficult turn and river decisions if an ace turns up meanwhile, got it or not, AJ doesn't mind them blasting?
Makes a lot of sense. Would you XR AJo on a two tone flop if you had the ace of the dominant suit or is it too early to factor in the potential of bluffing the nut flush later in the hand if necessary?
I don't like the way I played his hand after thinking about it. In game I was thinking he could play rivers better than us but after looking at MDA it's the opposite. Will post some analysis later
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software
NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($6.05) [VPIP: 29.3% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.4% | Turn Agg: 34% | River Agg: 37.7% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 60.1% | 4Bet: 13.8% | Hands: 339224]
SB ($5.16) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 5]
BB ($4.75) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 23.1% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 14]
HJ ($4.95) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 12]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 4]
Dealt to Hero: Q♦ K♠
HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.10, HERO Raises To $0.35, SB Folds, BB Folds, CO Calls $0.25
Hero SPR on Flop: [6.04 effective]
Flop ($0.77): 7♥ Q♣ 6♥
CO Checks, HERO Checks
Turn ($0.77): 7♥ Q♣ 6♥ T♣
CO Bets $0.56 (Rem. Stack: $4.09), HERO Raises To $5.70 (allin), CO Calls $4.09 (allin)
River ($11.12): 7♥ Q♣ 6♥ T♣ 9♦
Spoiler
CO shows: J♥ Q♥
HERO wins: $9.57
X-B70-B is overbluffed in general but filters matter a ton. The 4 straight no gap/1 gap is always underbluffed and FCT/FCR for both 2tone and BDFD are also underbluffed. Once we know this we can just call turn (like a solver does).
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So in retrospect I can just call turn and fold a bunch of rivers which makes it easier.
I would just always bet the flop
Does not having a heart impact our decision to check flop?
We go for 3 streets of value. Checking flop is bad.
We are lucky here villain has the FD to go along with TP. Most of the time villain has TP and we give away one street of value.
Two cool spots. One is a concept I still mess up so need to get better at it. One is a spot which I know pretty well. Two HH's.
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software
NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($11.24) [VPIP: 29.2% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.4% | Turn Agg: 34% | River Agg: 37.7% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Cold Call: 9.4% | Hands: 337830]
UTG ($5.24)
I was thinking given his spr and you're capped he's most likely shoving river... I was thinking shovel the Turn but that's so 2011... and a little results oriented.
One question for you... in your data mining and research are you finding or pinpointing bot tendencies? I was thinking this hand feels a little uncharacteristic of iggy 5nl... which is why I would have folded River.
Well, KQo for TPGK is not a clear 3 street value hand, even if turn and river ran completely blank. So if his data shows population plays bad, overbluffing the X-B-B line, I don't see why his line would be worse than betting flop.
