[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread
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Hello world, my name is Sergey and this is my last contribution to this miserable existence...
I cant take it anymore. I've lost everything dear to me. My wife and son were killed in a horrific accident. This isn't worth it anymore. I can't bear this pain inside of me that is eating me ever since they were gone. I cant keep going without them. This guilt I carry on top of this pain.
99% sure that post is some kind of troll. Cant speak for all of them, but i have played a bunch with a couple of those guys and they never seemed like they were cheating in any way. Some of these guys play way higher than others as well. Cant remember who of the russian regs that know them, but i know that some of the russian hs regs know nlchakra and aironvega and said they are legit.
99% sure that post is some kind of troll. Cant speak for all of them, but i have played a bunch with a couple of those guys and they never seemed like they were cheating in any way. Some of these guys play way higher than others as well. Cant remember who of the russian regs that know them, but i know that some of the russian hs regs know nlchakra and aironvega and said they are legit.
If they are doing what the poster claims then how do you know? I've played a ton with most of these guys btw.
99% sure that post is some kind of troll. Cant speak for all of them, but i have played a bunch with a couple of those guys and they never seemed like they were cheating in any way. Some of these guys play way higher than others as well. Cant remember who of the russian regs that know them, but i know that some of the russian hs regs know nlchakra and aironvega and said they are legit.
What would be the purpose of the troll and why such a specific list of names?
The guy named most of the Russian /Ukrainian 200b grinders but not all of them.
If they are doing what the poster claims then how do you know? I've played a ton with most of these guys btw.
What would be the purpose of the troll and why such a specific list of names?
The guy named most of the Russian /Ukrainian 200b grinders but not all of them.
Look at how they play and look at their results. None of these guys are some explo monster or play some super MDA-driven strategy. Never seen a hand that would imply that anyone in that list would collude. NLCHAKRA also have been playing anywhere from nl100 to nl5k asfaik. I'm very sure that someone from the names mentioned will post and defend themselves. The only thing these guys have in common is that they play a lot of 200 blitz and they are primarily rakeback grinders. Why would some of these guys collude at 200 blitz and play without other team mates at 2k-5k?
well this got awkward really fast. confirmation biases at it best. future might not be good for some people if Ai is able to fake voice, image.
Look at how they play and look at their results. None of these guys are some explo monster or play some super MDA-driven strategy. Never seen a hand that would imply that anyone in that list would collude. NLCHAKRA also have been playing anywhere from nl100 to nl5k asfaik. I'm very sure that someone from the names mentioned will post and defend themselves. The only thing these guys have in common is that they play a lot of 200 blitz and they are primarily rakeback grinders. Why would some of the
I think the idea is it’s a stable that has human operators playing different shifts but sharing the same bot accounts, hence the wide range of stakes observed. You didn’t answer my question though of why it would be a troll. Some reg is salty at other regs? So they make a 2p2 account and post into the absolute void this site is? (I mean it’s not like ACR reps are gonna read/do something about this) and the post isn’t made with the expectation that something is gonna be done.
I’ll be interested to see if this account replies again, it not, I agree it looks more like a troll/vendetta
Seems fake they're losing and under EV over 825k hands
Look at how they play and look at their results. None of these guys are some explo monster or play some super MDA-driven strategy. Never seen a hand that would imply that anyone in that list would collude. NLCHAKRA also have been playing anywhere from nl100 to nl5k asfaik. I'm very sure that someone from the names mentioned will post and defend themselves. The only thing these guys have in common is that they play a lot of 200 blitz and they are primarily rakeback grinders. Why would some of the
Yeah that's true. I saw only PandaisEvil playing 5k.
And it is consistent with a bunch of those names that they play mostly like RB/points grinders.
Very weird post though. I don't understand the motivation to post such a thing in the way it was written.
Well, it did sound like he was under mental distress.
I thought he prefaced it with saying he was going to off himself.
If this is true you should surely know none of these guys are anywhere near good enough to be colluding to the extent he's claiming. In my database most of these guys(the one I got hands on) aren't winners pre-rb and some aren't even winning post-rb.
I have no idea what the purpose of that post is, but if those guys are actually colluding they are easily the worst colluders ever. Specifically the line where he says ''we make perfect folds pre and postflop''. If you have played a ton with these guys you know for a fact this is not true at all. Not even a little bit.
Cross posting this for everyone here who told me off for saying the bots are exploitative.
And yes I know this is ACR, but it’s pretty obviously the same group on ignition.
ACR is obviously bot infested but this list that was provided is not part of what ever group you're thinking of. These guys aren't even winning pre-rb. To me, they've always seemed like the annoying **** regs who grind RB.
Would also say that the English is ''Sergeys'' post is way too good for it to be a legitimate Russian/Ukrainian reg.
If this is true you should surely know none of these guys are anywhere near good enough to be colluding to the extent he's claiming. In my database most of these guys(the one I got hands on) aren't winners pre-rb and some aren't even winning post-rb.
I have no idea what the purpose of that post is, but if those guys are actually colluding they are easily the worst colluders ever. Specifically the line where he says ''we make perfect folds pre and postflop''. If you have played a ton with these g
Yeah that aligns with what I have on them. But still I was open to the fact it could be true in some way that maybe I didn't realize or didn't see. It's not like I'm playing with all of them at the same time all the time.
But yeah like I said Parcker is a slight loser pre RB. And players like PaynCry and AironVega play sort of a similar tight nitty style so my guess would be they are probably similar results wise, but I haven't checked.
ACR is obviously bot infested but this list that was provided is not part of what ever group you're thinking of. These guys aren't even winning pre-rb. To me, they've always seemed like the annoying **** regs who grind RB.
Would also say that the English is ''Sergeys'' post is way too good for it to be a legitimate Russian/Ukrainian reg.
I see you've been banned for politarding.
You called me a moron for expressing a viewpoint about bots some pages ago and now you reply to me as if we're having a normal discussion, that's some real weaksauce dawg. Have some respect for me and yourself.
I have way higher samples and knowledge of these guys than you as I play them on a daily basis. I also think aironvega is legit fwiw as he has made some good adjustments against me.
There could be partial truth to what this guy is saying and I find it unlikely that there isn't at least *some* truth to it even if he has the details wrong or some of the names wrong.
I'm still waiting for one of the named players to self-identify and/or "sergey" to post again but I'm also prepared for it have been a troll and I think its worth american regs who read this thread and the ACR thread knowing about either way.
That post is almost certainly a troll. I think at least one of those players is a twitch streamer too.
How dead is zone? I just started playing again last week and haven't seen more than 35 in the 200 pool.
like 99% sure veggies is an American 2+2 poster that has been around a long while.
edit: yeah, hundredsofstuff, been around for like 15 years
If there is anyone still playing I would be very interested to see some results or hear anecdotes. At this point if ANYONE has continued to play there must be some fun numbers out there.
For example:
- volume must have went down a lot for any reg. Fish lose faster and there are way less playable tables.
- possible change in stake breakdown?
- people must be getting utterly destroyed in multiway/squeeze situations.
- pure speculation on my end. But if the human reg pool has decreased to a 1/10 of what it was before. Any human by default will get way more exploited than before considering the bots could have pool exploits. Where as a human now represents too big % of the player pool and with open hole cards the bots should catch up really fast.
If there is anyone still playing I would be very interested to see some results or hear anecdotes. At this point if ANYONE has continued to play there must be some fun numbers out there.
For example:
- volume must have went down a lot for any reg. Fish lose faster and there are way less playable tables.
- possible change in stake breakdown?
- people must be getting utterly destroyed in multiway/squeeze situations.
- pure speculation on my end. But if the human reg pool has decreased to a 1/10 of what
You're going to run well under EV, as well, because if they are card sharing, they know when your potential outs are dead.
I got absolutely clobbered at 500NL during what felt like the peak of the cheating. Trying to get the love of the game back and work on rust @ 50NL and even that feels dead. Seeing similar patterns even @ 50NL but its admittedly small sample
For all the talk about cheating and bots on here (which I don't doubt is true) it does make me wonder how in the world Brad Wilson and his co-host continue to crush on here at 500-1k+. They post videos of absurd hands, 2-3 fish per table at 6max. Are these old videos or are they just hand picking their sessions when 90% of the time the games are bad? I dunno, raises a lot of questions for me. I never ever see the softness of tables they post on any other site.
Does anyone know why anytime I get disconnected even if it's just for a few seconds I'll get moved to another table?
happens to me too at least once per day (disconnect reconnect).
Has anyone been playing Jackpot spins since they added the $50 tier? (also they changed the blind structure apparently)
My last game was a $100 spin , we spun 15x(blue background), and I won.
But the prizepool is listed as $600? This shouldn't be possible, right?
Or am i missing something? Has ignition introduced a 6x blue multiplier for their jackpot games? Is this some weird software mistake?
