Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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IDF has over 10k hostages actually. they have been snatching people right and left. including many of the children that were released in November.
They have prisoners that committed crimes. Some of the crimes are dumb. But they weren't innocents at a music festival
You already know this
Pointless
At least be a man and admit you just hate Jews
You admit you hate women by starting dumb threads about men being oppressed
Just own that you ****ing hate Jews cause "they are white colonizers" and they deserved to be raped and murdered
You already admittedc the second part jew hater
After I'm banned you can celebrate another jew out of your life
Bye loser
Not trying to be rude but if we compare Manliness I’d eat you up and spit you out
I don’t hate Jews. Pretty much 75% of my closest friends are Jewish. I enjoy all of our times together and have been considering making jdate account so I could find a kind Jewish women to have some Jewish kids with
I guess you’ve been getting indoctrinated at synagogue for the last two decades. I heard the racist anti Palestinian drivel enough in 2010 and it sent me to practice my faith in private
I don’t hate women either. Until men have equal rights in our judicial system then I will view them as partially oppressed. Women get 10% as much jail time as men for same crimes. You think it’s ok for men to be punished TEN TIMES worse than women for the same thing? Jesus Christ simp more.
You don’t know the difference between European Jews and middle eastern Jews? My 23 and me shows me the diff in my Jewish lineage based on continent, does yours?
Yes american men and hamas terrorists
The oppressed
Spoiler
Men can be partially oppressed. It’s not binary.
Terrorists are people that kill civilians for political motives/ gain etc. IDF has killed 50k civilians in the last 10 years.
Hamas has killed 2000?
Who is the bigger terrorist ?
Mets. As a man who is manlier than you, and smarter, and in better shape , just wanna tell you that your world views on IDF and Hamas are wrong.
PointlessWords, please take a timeout from this thread until 12:00 AM Eastern Time for starting this nonsense.
The rest of you, please stop talking about each other or the thread is going to take another timeout for everyone. This conversation is NOT meant to be a debate about each others’ character.
It's impossible at this point to intervene in this thread answering PW or Viktor claims without breaking several rules
It's beyond ****ing ridiculous and him and victor get away with saying bullshit like that all day long and i get timeouts for being argumentitive when i respond
It's bullshit
And it's pure antisemetic because no normal person that didn't hate Jews would think the murders AND RAPES at the music festival are okay
And he's also ignoring THAT THEY STILL HAVE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS HOSTAGES BUT THINKS THAT'S NOT A CRIME
because they are Jews
****ing antisemitic pos
I'll see you whenever
Metsandfinsfan, you know the drill, friend. We’ll see you at 12:00 AM Eastern time. Thank you
The audacity of literally that guy making that assessment about anyone but himself
[QUOTE=Crossnerd]The rest of you, please stop talking about each other or the thread is going to take another timeout for everyone. This conversation is NOT meant to be a debate about each others’ character.[/QUOTE]
Luciom, Victor and StoppedRainingMen, Do you two need to reread my above posts or do we also need timeouts? As we have observed here, it only takes one contentless post to derail the entire thread. Mother is tired.
Luciom, Victor and StoppedRainingMen, Do you two need to reread my above posts or do we also need timeouts? As we have observed here, it only takes one contentless post to derail the entire thread. Mother is tired.
I am not talking character, rather claims.
Like the claim that 10 7 wasn't a terrorist attack.
I am just saying I am not addressing those false claims anymore because I don't think it's possible to do so following rules.
I thought it was important to say that because the thread has been very active, so a claim left there unaddressed might create the idea it's hard to counter it.
Reading over the logistics for how the IDF evacuated 1 million Gazans from Rafah in two weeks....it's impressive.
I am not talking character, rather claims.
Like the claim that 10 7 wasn't a terrorist attack.
I am just saying I am not addressing those false claims anymore because I don't think it's possible to do so following rules.
I thought it was important to say that because the thread has been very active, so a claim left there unaddressed might create the idea it's hard to counter it.
It's not just that it was terrorism, but one of the most well documented terrorist attacks of all time. The footage Hamas filmed of themselves is just beyond. When you have combat experts watching the film saying they've never seen bloodlust like it, it gives you pause.
I think most of the world understands it was terrorism today. My bigger concern is 30 years from now.
It's not just that it was terrorism, but one of the most well documented terrorist attacks of all time. The footage Hamas filmed of themselves is just beyond. When you have combat experts watching the film saying they've never seen bloodlust like it, it gives you pause.
I think most of the world understands it was terrorism today. My bigger concern is 30 years from now.
Fact is the war crime claim is bizzarre though (if applied to 10 7). There was no war, you can't have war crimes without a war. That's why it was terrorism.
I am not sure I understood the charges to the Palestinians, I read war crimes but I am not sure it's about 10 7 or later events
Hamas had an exceptional ratio of civilians to soldiers killed even if you attribute all of the civilian deaths to them and include all the reservists as civilians.
Israel has beheaded and burned alive more people and more children every couple hours since Oct 7th. I have never seen such bloodlust or even thought it possible.
Mets. As a man who is manlier than you, and smarter, and in better shape , just wanna tell you that your world views on IDF and Hamas are wrong.
Just stop with this nonsense. If you can’t support your views without attacking other people instead of ideas, you should consider not posting at all
This thread is taking a 24 hour rest while we all consider whether we want to have it at all. I've had enough for today. Thanks, friends.
Alright, lets try this again, friends.
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Seems unsually clear
As the US, like Israel (and for similarly understandable if regrettable reasons), has never ratified the Rome Statute and has actually withdrawn its signature, therefore not being a state party to the ICC, the President isn't particularly entitled to a view on what the ICC does. He can say what he likes, but it doesn't mean much, it's just political positioning.
As the US, like Israel (and for similarly understandable if regrettable reasons), has never ratified the Rome Statute and has actually withdrawn its signature, therefore not being a state party to the ICC, the President isn't particularly entitled to a view on what the ICC does. He can say what he likes, but it doesn't mean much, it's just political positioning.
So I take it Bibi runs a real risk of going to The Hague if he travels to states which recognise the ICC? Would the UK actually arrest him if he went there for example? Not sure if Ireland would and kinda doubt it tbh.
Or are parties to it obliged to abide by the warrant? Can't imagine that Argentine [strike]weirdo[/strike] President arresting him either.
