Idiotic Jeopardy wagers (no spoilers before 6 EST)

Idiotic Jeopardy wagers (no spoilers before 6 EST)

If anyone else watched Jeopardy tonight then maybe they feel my pain on this one. The worst part is that if either of the 2 trailing players had bet the "right" amount they would have won, including the guy who went into Final Jeopardy with only about 1/3 as many chips as the other players.

Dollar amounts of players from right to left entering Final Jeopardy from left to right (I don't remember their names):

P1: $4800 P2: $13,800 P3: $12,000

Category/question is irrelevant but for the curious it was "Acting Families" and they were looking for the last name of a father and son who played 2 different real US Presidents, one on film and one on TV.

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Now obviously neither P1 nor P3 can possibly win if P2 gets the answer right. He is forced to bet at least $10,201 to give him a total of $24,001 which is $1 more than double 2nd places $12K total.

With that in mind, the only way either of the other 2 have any shot whatsoever is if P2 gets it wrong, and since he has to bet at least $10,201 then he will have, at most, $3599 when that happens.

This means that P1 actually has a chance here provided P3 is stupid enough to be an amount that allows him to win. He's totally in it, he should bet $0 and his answer is irrelevant. Basically if P3 is not smart enough to make his victory impossible then she's probably dumb enough to make a huge bet and he'll win if they both miss it (which actually happens quite a lot in Final Jeopardy).

P3 however shouldn't bet any more than $2399 since that would allow P1 to pass her if he bet it all and got it right, which she can't allow to happen if she's thinking about it at all. So she can bet whatever she want's between $0-$2399 and if the leader (P2) misses the question she is GUARANTEED to win as he MUST bet $10,201 minimum.

Well, here's how it actually went down:

They all got it WRONG. Here is what they bet and what they wound up.

P1: $4,799 >>> $1
P2: $13,000 >>> $800
P3: $11,900 >>> $100

They totally handed it to P2 by making horrible wagers. Had either of them made rational bets they would have won easily. Notice how P3 sort of understands that leaving herself with something if she gets it wrong is good but ultimately decides on $100 for some reason that I'm sure made sense to her at the time. I expect this kind of **** on The Price is Right, but Jeopardy contestants should really know better.

09 June 2009 at 12:32 AM
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by Kurn, son of Mogh k

I assume he's referring to the current 2-day champion.

I'll need evidence (like a posted pic) to believe his claim, though. 😉

that could just prove that they are coworkers or cousins or neighbors

need a sex tape to really get to the bottom of this


Who is Val?


I'm a day behind, but impressed with current champ. Obviously knows the game, but started to get a bit cocky in game 3. Rang in on bad guesses, and over wagered a late DD.
Congrats KoD, seems like a catch. A couple more Ws and ToC here we come. TR/AMA required if that happens.


smh at some of the recent responses.

Oh, well. If anyone here interested, I have a bridge to sell you.


Last night was a first for me. We've seen many examples of nobody having any sports knowledge, but last night, every music question was a triple stumper. Not a single buzz in.

The first one, in SJ, when nobody knew Jim Morrison, I figured, OK, they're too young. But in the pop music category in DJ, silence across the board.


by Kurn, son of Mogh k

Last night was a first for me. We've seen many examples of nobody having any sports knowledge, but last night, every music question was a triple stumper. Not a single buzz in.

The first one, in SJ, when nobody knew Jim Morrison, I figured, OK, they're too young. But in the pop music category in DJ, silence across the board.

While looking up the questions on J! Archive the "random FJ question" was "two of the 4 US states bordering Mexico". I was in total disbelief before realizing that might have been from a kids game. Clicking the episode link confirmed that.

Is anyone watching Jeopardy Masters? It's on Hulu so no need to watch it on regular TV. Through her first two games Victoria has an average Coryat of 25.5k. That's pretty insane. Tonight she goes head to head with James and based on how she's been crushing the buzzer and he hasn't, she might be the favorite.


I don't watch much but saw last Friday may 3 when Henry lost for absolutely no reason with terrible fj bid. Also thought the final jeopardy was incredibly easy but 2 missed it smh.

I probably could have won that game and I'm **** at jeopardy


Yogesh didn’t get Space Force?

Pretty great showing by Victoria


She's extraordinary , I never believed I would see a Jeopardy player better than James but she has to be the big favorite to win the Masters


She made a half-assed DJ wager though on one of those games that cost her some points. I'd still make James the slight favorite just based on game strategy.


by domda k

She's extraordinary , I never believed I would see a Jeopardy player better than James but she has to be the big favorite to win the Masters

James still plays the game better but Victoria's knowledge base in Masters level games is superior. Yogesh's is as well. Those two have been big names in the quizzing community for some time.


James lost it when he wrote gay little articles for The Athletic


by TimTimSalabim k

She made a half-assed DJ wager though on one of those games that cost her some points. I'd still make James the slight favorite just based on game strategy.

On one hand she did make 1 or 2 half assed DJ wagers in the normal course of play. But they were safety plays where all she really wanted was to guarantee the one point for second.

I thought she played the strategy pretty spectacularly.


by chuckleslovakian k

On one hand she did make 1 or 2 half assed DJ wagers in the normal course of play. But they were safety plays where all she really wanted was to guarantee the one point for second.

I thought she played the strategy pretty spectacularly.

I thought they both played too timidly in the first round of FJ. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me the play in the first round is to go all-in if you have a reasonable chance of getting it right, because then you've pretty much locked up the whole match. Then again it could be that both didn't really like the category.


Scores going into final:
$9,200
$5,200
$3,000

So 2nd place naturally bets zero.


by madlex k

Scores going into final:
$9,200
$5,200
$3,000

So 2nd place naturally bets zero.

And is the only player to solve FJ!


by domda k

She's extraordinary , I never believed I would see a Jeopardy player better than James but she has to be the big favorite to win the Masters

The King is dead. Long live the Queen!


by madlex k

Scores going into final:
$9,200
$5,200
$3,000

So 2nd place naturally bets zero.

Is there a term for the opposite of Jeopardy Masters?


Jeopardy Ass, sir


Wildly stupid FJ wager by Amar on Tuesday May 28th's game. Then the winner makes a dumb FJ wager the next day herself, not even attempting to cover the leader in FJ.


I’m like 2 weeks behind but I have to vent about this girl named Joyce

Joyce - 9000
Champ - 18,100

Final question on board is a $400, guy in the negative buzzes in and gets in wrong. Champ doesn’t ring in, and Joyce doesn’t guess… Is happy to go into final drawing dead.

Amazes me how bad these people are at realtime math and strategy


I can forgive that in the heat of the moment when the scores are a little harder to decipher on the fly, but 18100 vs 9000 is about as easy as it gets to do the math on, lol.

I've always been curious as to how much time contestants actually get to give their DD wagers. I've never seen Alex or Ken actually give any warning, so I'm wondering if they can sit there for 3 minutes if they want and they just edit out the pause later.

Of course that won't stop people from constantly doing the "decent sized DD bet that's actually the worst of both worlds because it leaves you at 25% the leader's score if wrong, but only puts you up $600 with $3000 left in clues on the board if correct" thing.


I get the feeling DD wagers only receive about as much screen time as they get, as some contestants definitely look like they feel the pressure of making a wager in the moment.

I have to figure they get borderline as much time as needed for FJ wagers, which make the really dumb wagers there even more inexcusable.


Technically, they have as much time as they want, although the host will certainly prod them for a wager. The extra time can always be edited out in post production

Most contestants never consider how to wager, That’s why you see the blank look on most faces when they hit a daily double.


Going into FJ today

Leader - 19400
2nd - 9800
3rd - 3800

2nd wagers 1201. Good job.

Didn’t matter in the end.

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