2/5 curious about solver reasoning?

I can only guess, of course, but my guess is that when you bet the turn your opponent should fold a lot of pocket pairs that didn’t fold flop. And he won’t have trips very often. So your AK is supposed to have enough fold equity to make the bet work. (And occasionally A5cc and A4cc can call or something maybe?)

The issue is that in real life you often don’t have the fold equity the solver wants to conclude you have.

I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the board is double suited, and we have the ace of one suit and the king of the other suit in our hand. We can rep a front door flush on a diamond river, and V shouldn't show up with the nut club flush very often.

V shouldn't have much 2P+ here, so unless he has Tx, the board pairing T is basically a brick. I'd think all our over-pairs want to barrel big on this card, when the second flush draw appears.

You have a multiway post flop solver?

the solver is never wrong and I can only imagine it's just on a hail mary bluff here, but ignoring all the solver nonsense this is just a crapshoot lineup for you. Not only are you card dead, but you're on the left of a winning high(er) stakes pro. There's no value here, ever. He's fully aware of you and he's just never going to pay you off. You need an immediate seat change or just fake some action and sitout for awhile until you can get one. If you dont foresee a seat opening up then just snap quit the game entirely and find a new one.

i don't think solver reasons, but a turn bluff seems better than a river bluff, because villain will have to worry about calling turn + river as well so he might be less inclined to bluff catch with 55 or w/e. Also maybe with T23 it's more likely AK is good? I dunno.

He's got 88 or 99 and your line makes no sense. I guess you have some Tx that tried to trap by checking back turn? Solver probably wants a thick size because you bet flop repping the overpair and have some TX outkicked with your AT/KT. Also some middling pairs have to fold. I check flop though.

You 3bet 10% of the effective stacks preflop. And you are in position. No one should have much 10x. He should have folded all of his 10x preflop either the first or second time.

Most of his range that is ahead of you here is pocket pairs that are afraid of higher pocket pairs.

EDIT: Just to add, this is not a tough spot if I have AA and he jams. It’s a snap call. If you ran me down with Tx take my money.

When V opens 6x from EP, that's strong. When we 3B him >3x next to act, that's really strong.

When the BTN cold-calls, V is getting over 3:1 on a call when action gets back to him. But he shouldn't be calling with 22, 33, 32, T2, or T3. He might call with TT, ATs, or maybe some other Tx suited combos with decent playability post flop.

The board-pairing T on the turn reduces his combos of TT to one combo. If we give him every combo of Tx suited from T9 up to AT, that's another ten combos.

He could play those 11 combos of TT and Tx this way on flop and turn, but he's going to have a lot more 1P hands and flush draws that aren't loving life. If he's 4B'ing pre with AA, KK, and QQ, he's left with JJ and worse pocket pairs, and diamond draws that haven't gotten there yet.

Assuming the solver is bombing the turn with JJ+, TT, any Tx combo that 3B's pre, and any other PP, there are at least 25, if not more value combos we have here. We'll be struggling for bluffs if we don't put AK and some other combos into our range.

I'd think we'd want V to have the Ad in his hand, so he'll have more flush draws that will fold, but maybe it's a good thing for us to have it, so we can bluff the river on another diamond, blocking V from having the nut flush.

When we check back turn, it seems like we're really capping our range to un-paired over-cards and flush draws that are just taking their equity, or PP's lower than TT. We're letting V's PP's realize their equity, and also allowing some of V's flush draws to catch up and make a pair on the river.

Just guessing, but I'm expecting V to roll over 7Xdd, 88, 99, or JJ. If I was V and had any of those hands, I think I'd be calling you down a lot, when you check back turn and bet less than half pot on the river. The higher his pair, the easier it is for him to call, because he's beating more of our range.

If V donked turn, obviously we'd fold. To Vernon's point, as played, if V jammed river, I don't know how readily I'd call with over-pairs. But when we checked back on the turn, we opened the door for V to make that play with Tx for value or with some bluffs.

Because when he flats pre he has a lot of hands that will fold the turn like JJ or KQs AK

The main reason solvers bluff imo is so you get paid more when you have AA or KK in this spot. That can’t be ignored imo

think cbet size not that great for what you're trying to do but ok. look how shallow stacks are and given you're 70bb pre and its utg utg1 he shouldnt have that many tx to the point where your overpairs are going to be fine just going with the hand (sets are extraordinarily unlikely and his trips aren't enough of his range for you not to be able to comfortably stack w QQ+).

as for why it likes the Ad, you block AQdd and AJdd which are supposed to call the turn and some of the lower nut flushes that are looking to xr if they dont xr the flop. is iffy as it relies on him xring like AdKx and AdQx a healthy amount otf which idk if your enemies are. also blah blah river follow throughs are intuitive (diamond good, queen good, others bad)

he cannot put u in a bad spot with AA at this stack depth lol, you are pure calling qq+

3b size looks too big too

Which solver is this that handles a 3-way pot?

That's what I'm asking. Because OP is saying the solver is saying something about this multiway spot. So I'm curious what solver there is that handles multi way post flop. Unless I misread something.

Yeah, I am wondering if it might not be accurate. If he entered a 2-way hand.

Prometheus Poker is multi-way solver. They were a big sponsor of HCL's million dollar game last year.

Monker (https://monkerware.com/solver.html) is the only one I've thought of buying, and it'll do multiway solves ... but I thought that was pretty common for local solvers? Maybe you mean website solvers?

I see thank you I wasn't aware of that.