3bet pot ; countering low IP 4B%?
Hi! Testing something here. I was wondering what you guys thought about it.
[converted_hand][hand_history]PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3
Hero (SB): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $28.74 (115 bb)
UTG: $33.20 (132.8 bb)
CO: $25.00 (100 bb)
BTN: $43.95 (175.8 bb)
Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A♣ K♠
fold, CO raises to $0.62, fold, Hero raises to $1.87, fold, CO calls $1.25
Flop: ($3.99, 2 players) 8♦ A♠ J♦
Hero bets $0.38
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]
There is a tendency from regs in this pool (PS, regular tables) to have their 4B% be a lot lower when IP than when OOP (1). My guess is that they're slowplaying most of their premiums, which I'm sure hurts them overall, but also ease their lives when they actually get to go postflop ; because they have position and a stronger range than suspected. Then their postflop strategy is basically to call down against barrels, and pick up aggression when their opponents check ; all of it low SPRs. Easy life!
So I thought about it and concluded that one seemingly good way to counter this strategy would be to downsize my bets, at least for preflop and flop : 3-betting 3x from the blinds instead of 4x-5x and c-betting 1/10. That way opponents either adapt by raising a lot more, which likely makes them a lot more transparent (because they're not used to raising a lot), or they don't adapt, keep being passive, and hurt themselves by playing small pots with in advantageous situations.
What do you think? Do you see more cons than pros to it?
1. Opponent 4bet stats
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If someone doesn't 3/4-bet much I'd assume their range is stronger because the value portion is much more intuitive
8% isn't even that low, GTO is like 20% OOP and 11% IP. It's higher for micros but you can't exploit their errors much there because the EV goes to the poker site
If someone doesn't 3/4-bet much I'd assume their range is stronger because the value portion is much more intuitive
8% isn't even that low, GTO is like 20% OOP and 11% IP. It's higher for micros but you can't exploit their errors much there because the EV goes to the poker site
Oh! I didn't know the gap between OOP and IP 4B% was meant to be that big. I thought IP was around 15%.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the value portion would be more intuitive if someone doesn't 3bet/4bet much? Do you mean they're never mixing with premiums? or that they would rather call with hands they would otherwise 3bet/4bet if they were OOP??
10% is ok, but probably should be a bit bigger, like 20-25% on the flop. People are still going to call with about the same amount of hands against each size.
Oh! I didn't know the gap between OOP and IP 4B% was meant to be that big. I thought IP was around 15%.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the value portion would be more intuitive if someone doesn't 3bet/4bet much? Do you mean they're never mixing with premiums? or that they would rather call with hands they would otherwise 3bet/4bet if they were OOP??
Yes people will almost always 4-bet KK+ AKs, then 4-bet AK/JJ/QQ too much and miss the 88, T9s, ATs type bluffs
10% is ok, but probably should be a bit bigger, like 20-25% on the flop. People are still going to call with about the same amount of hands against each size.
Fair point!
Yes people will almost always 4-bet KK+ AKs, then 4-bet AK/JJ/QQ too much and miss the 88, T9s, ATs type bluffs
Makes sense! It explains why many players have the same kind of gap between the two stats 
