British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Don't be silly. And I've seen and tended someone stabbed and bleeding to death on the pavement and I suspect you haven't.
50,000 recorded knife crimes p.a. speak for themselves.
Ban the internet for you there is no constitutional right to have internet access.
It's a very bad trend.
I am not sure I understood what you propose to try to solve it though
I propose the most extreme form of Trotskyist-Maoist-Leninism imaginable. If you like licking a boot you'll love it, trust me.
I propose the most extreme form of Trotskyist-Maoist-Leninism imaginable. If you like licking a boot you'll love it, trust me.
Not ironically , I don't get your point.
What's your proposal if you have any? I don't have any outside of using the max possibly allowed violence toward criminals when law enforcement is present
It's not about fixing one specific type of violence. It's about first looking at why inter-teen violence has exploded over the last few years (diagnosing the disease) then deciding on a suitable remedy for the disease.
Cutting off the spots isn't going to do any good because more will be created by the underlying illness. Which is exactly what we see when we send lots of people to prison.
It's not about fixing one specific type of violence. It's about first looking at why inter-teen violence has exploded over the last few years (diagnosing the disease) then deciding on a suitable remedy for the disease.Cutting off the spots isn't going to do any good because more will be created by the underlying illness. Which is exactly what we see when we send lots of people
Why has Inter-teen violence exploded over the last few years in the UK and not in Italy or Spain?
Btw why has this shifter to "inter-teen"? How many of the 50k crimes relates to knives are teen over teen?
And from what I read it was the same amount in 2019
I can find a lot of information about knife crimes here
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/res...
But for some reason no information on the country of origin of perpetrators, I wonder why
Why has Inter-teen violence exploded over the last few years in the UK and not in Italy or Spain?
I gave my thoughts earlier. Harmful social changes accumulated over a long period of time exacerbated by 15 years of austerity measures has given us a society where young people are faced with only **** choices, plus we were all stupid when we were young and the lure of a fantasy life glamorised by the entertainment industry will prove to be too strong for some to resist.
I can find a lot of information about knife crimes here
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/res...
But for some reason no information on the country of origin of perpetrators, I wonder why
What do you mean by country of origin? I’d wager the vast majority were born here.
If they are immigrants, second generation included, and if so from which countries, because in continental Europe those people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes so I was wondering if that's the same in the UK (it isn't in the USA).
It's very different if it's an endogenous problem vs if it is an imported problem don't you think? Different causes and different solutions
I gave my thoughts earlier. Harmful social changes accumulated over a long period of time exacerbated by 15 years of austerity measures has given us a society where young people are faced with only **** choices, plus we were all stupid when we were young and the lure of a fantasy life glamorised by the entertainment industry will prove to be too strong for some to resist.
Pretty sure Italian real wages for the under35 went worse than British real wages for the under35 in the last 2 decades
If they are immigrants, second generation included, and if so from which countries, because in continental Europe those people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes
I'd need to see some reputable stats before I accept that from you.
Right but come on - Italians are famous for being over-mothered (the boys anyway). Here parents are pretty glad to get rid of their kids when they move out and the kids are also glad.
Statistical comparisons absent social differences are meaningless.
these three images explain close to 100% of the reasons for social change in the uk over the last few decades, with the stuff jalfrezi obsesses about being almost completely meaningless
It's good to find some common ground with a diehard blue in the face Tory that the policy of selling council houses into the private sector has been a social disaster.
Though we will never agree that austerity hasn't had a huge detrimental effect on young people and their aspirations.
The first non police link I found in relation to the causes of knife crime in the UK:
Knife crime: causes and solutions – edit...
Oh look what #1 is:
Why is knife crime increasing?
Discussions of violent crime among young people often start and finish with policing. But for academics, investigations begin with the experiences of young people themselves, as they seek to discover the underlying causes of knife crime.
1. Toxic environments for children, created by austerity
Knife crime is a symptom of the toxic environments that adults create around children, who then become both perpetrators and victims. It is created by politicians and by the politics of austerity. Stephen Case, professor of criminology, Loughborough University, and Kevin Haines, professor, University of Trinidad and Tobago
Homes, schools, neighbourhoods or recreational activities can become toxic environments for children, when their relationships and experiences fail to nurture them, protect them and help them to achieve their potential.
These toxic environments can leave children disaffected, fearful and vengeful. They are scared and provoked into carrying knives, joining gangs and committing violent acts.
It is no coincidence that the vast majority of knife crime takes place in neighbourhoods suffering from huge social disadvantage and disinvestment.
Impact of austerity in numbers
£422.3m: reduction in spending on services for young people in last six years
3,500: number of youth service jobs lost (since 2010)
600: number of youth centres closed (since 2010)
130,000: number of places in youth centres eliminated (since 2010)
