*** June 2024 High Stakes Thread ***
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We generally post ~200bb+ pots, but if there's an
It's funny to me how a huge ante just turns everyone into a fish.
Open limp TT92?
The goal of poker is to steal the blinds. A huge ante just makes that even more important. Limping in because 'you have good pot odds' is nonsense.
It doesn't work like that. With an extra 4.2 BB in the middle you just want to VPIP as much as possible. T992ds is absolutely worth playing.
Nuance is needed, it's boring to mention Linus, Davy etc over and over so I will go with most underrated highstakes regs based on lists above.
#1 Mmasherdog - somehow not mentioned once so far. Good and solid player, always was good and solid. Great example of how a guy that seemingly manage to still play well despite a lot of nasty variance. Multiple of guys mentioned in the last few ranking would be either broke or locked up due to insanity if they had his run.
#2 ospiel - also surprisingly not mentioned. He has been killing it for well over a decade. Might not play as much or battle on the same level as others. But if he is on the table he is winning and he is not giving up winrate to any regs.
#3 avr0ra - kinda same as the two guys above. Getting ignored due to lack of volume and reg wars.
#4 alextrev - similar as above, very non flashy playing style but the fact is that he is making very few mistakes or blunders. Absurd consistency and longevity.
The ranking sort off takes a new step here because I think the next few guys are getting recognition but not as much as they deserve.
#5 munez - should be higher on every single list mentioned. Killed it year in and year out with doing bunch of reg wars. I think he is way less ego driven than other top regs, it seems like he mainly plays for fun or smth. Could def make more money if he didnt play 500/1k hu vs Linus every few months. Somehow starter playing nl1k recently during terrible hours, his goal clearly isn't to make as much money as possible or becoming a nvg hero. I don't think having a big ego is bad but I'm very positive it's what separates him from a lot of the guys ranked above him. Also will confirm that he does bluff, I have seen it.
#6 464 aka darrell - similar to munez there is a lack of ego and his goal doesn't seem to become as rich as possible which makes him similar to munez. Would also jump a few places in every rank besides ymb's if he just sat down and played the 20k nl reg wars or switched schedule to increase his avg stake. Skill wise he is up there but I don't think he will get the recognition he deserves until then. He told me he took 2 months off recently which separates him a lot from the rest of guys. If you didn't see nacho/zas/davy/Linus/barak/markus etc you would not think they are taking time off, you would be thinking what private game or live game are they playing. Or with some even are they learning a new game like Markus and Linus who somehow both turned into super endbosses in plo.
And another step for the up and comers, the young guns.
#7 Beppe- plays terrible hours and somehow wins for a high winrate despite so much of his volume being reg wars. If he switch his schedule and plays higher avg BB and more games with fish he would be on the rankings asap. Think it will be hard for him to get the recognition if he continue to play the bad hours. Allegedly people think his roof is super high skill wise and him being one of very few up and comers in the last years shows this. Also strikes me like a guy that doesn't play to become rich and also likes to study a lot. Decent chance he studies more than he plays.
#8 lukabrate / chris nguyen - haven't personally played him that much to make confident and bold statements. But quick progression through the stakes while also playing reg wars. I'm impressed so far, most of the up and comers tend to have one or multiple big leaks. Him like Beppe plays like they been around for a long time and have sound and solid strategies. It's great for longevity and its overlooked how uncommon it is. Most guys that move up through the stakes usually either sun run these days or play very extreme explo strategies that kills at the stakes below but does get punished at 5k+.
have you confirmed with solver? you sound very certain that one of the best PLO players is making a bad play here
I don’t need a solver output to tell you that it’s tragically bad.
There may be a rationale behind it like knowing JN is on limited bullets, but it’s still a losing donk limp and a losing donk call pre. :P
The goat is 8 tabling 1knl again, hopefully sharpening his game ready to battle at the mega high stakes again...
Apparently KaskaGrrossa is Tomas Ribeiro, final tabled the Triton main event and 1btcbtc is a reg https://x.com/CoinPoker_OFF/status/17998...
It ain't about how close to GTO they are playing that's for sure.Mostly it can only be for fun, but I think the community is extremely unaware in general of how much variance there can be in a 200k hand sample, and that if you sort by biggest winner you select for the outliers in variance, a 5% run is not unlikely amongst 20 guys and a 5% run for a winning player in 200k hands
It's hard to have any precision in these lists because the variance is such a big factor. Even me, after battling for the last year and half on acr against a lot of these guys, I find it hard to distinguish between when it feels like I'm getting crushed or when they are just running really good. That said, to be honest everyone is really good now, even at the 2k reg battles. I'
I'll have to respond, especially after you've been poo emoticoning me when I get stacked lately.. I guess you're trying to disrupt the discipline!
5 hands without a recreational 😮 across GG/ACR looks like i've played a lot more HU hands then you the last couple of years.
I am not a fan of the current ACR lobby system in comparison to what it was previously when I liked to play a little more on there but oh well.
Confirmed should not be on a list anyways, >insert that fish ontop of the heater image< I'm to old to figure that out
I don’t need a solver output to tell you that it’s tragically bad.
There may be a rationale behind it like knowing JN is on limited bullets, but it’s still a losing donk limp and a losing donk call pre. :P
You are cluless, really
He is one of the best plo players, but he is also absolutely the worst preflop at highstakes lol.
Its so funny when "theoretically sound" players like you two get mad about preflop plays of someone way above their skill level, especially when there is a huge ante, and a limp.
Did you ever contemplate that his -0.23bb EV limp (or whatever your solver would say...both of you pissing against the wind here) is actually a very plus EV play for him, due to postflop skills, advertising for future hands, suboptimal opponents and/or scared money behind him?
Try to take a step back from your laughably bad wannabe GTO guesses (you both didnt run the spot, obv. Just running your mouth), and see the full picture. There is a reason that he's crushing high stakes, and you are not...
maybe he just made a mistake too mate, good players make mistakes
You are cluless, reallyIts so funny when "theoretically sound" players like you two get mad about preflop plays of someone way above their skill level, especially when there is a huge ante, and a limp.Did you ever contemplate that his -0.23bb EV limp (or whatever your solver would say...both of you pissing against the wind here) is actually a very plus EV play for him, due to p
This conversation is so funny. Obv nobody has preflop solution for this blind structure so nobody has a clear answer about this preflop play but it seems fine for me. But o4r made incredible bad play postflop there and nobody even mentioned it lol.
Advertising for future hands, i guess.
I did that all the time at small-stakes, getting it in very light and aggro in the beginning, then toning it down, and still getting paid.
This conversation is so funny. Obv nobody has preflop solution for this blind structure so nobody has a clear answer about this preflop play but it seems fine for me. But o4r made incredible bad play postflop there and nobody even mentioned it lol.
Legend ITT, just in time to provide us the PLO power rankings! ♥
(also please go on a poker podcast one of these days)
Guys above me saying "whalereg" or "not normal" are obviously not winning PLO players. Maybe don't comment at all if you have no clue about the game.
O4r doesn't have "only packet tens", he has a wrap dominator, a gutshot, a set blocker, and a backdoor flushdraw, topset draw, as well as the badugi suit ensuring a lot of backdoors are out there, all against one of the most nitty/spewy reg in the streets, while having an insanely aggro image himself.
So yes, it is standard all factors included
Super big appreciation and thanks to all the regs chiming in and the people who posted their lists of solid regs and their view on them.
One big problem I see in these threads nowadays is that if you're not really in the know, it's hard to care about anyone or any particular hands that get posted.
Hearing about different regs and their stories makes stuff like this worth watching and following.
Recs/casuals like me who have 9-5's enjoy a good narrative/story behind the players.
Also the banter above on the PLO hand was funny. 😀
Sucks we can't tell who's playing on the ACR tables
I'll have to respond, especially after you've been poo emoticoning me when I get stacked lately.. I guess you're trying to disrupt the discipline! 5 hands without a recreational 😮 across GG/ACR looks like i've played a lot more HU hands then you the last couple of years.I am not a fan of the current ACR lobby system in comparison to what it was previously when I liked to play
Brother, the poo is thrown with love, and yes maybe to bait a little more ha. I wish no ill to anyone and truly do respect the way you go about things.
maybe i spoke out of turn re: hands without recs thing since i've only really been battling on acr since early 2023, and only started playing with you then.
all the best
Davy Jones, man of the moment, chip leading the 25k WSOP event with 14 left
I'm PR0DIGY on acr, personally my top 10 would be
Davy
Linus
Llama
Barak
Jasam
Darrell
Markkos
Duddi
Taisto
Daniil
Some of these spots are set in stone, some of them very close but I think this is pretty fair. I'd also say it's been a while since I played a lot with markkos, taisto and danill but their results especially the first 2 are insane and they always struck me as very sharp.
There's a few guys in non-regs power rankings that are sort of coasting more on name recognition than anything, not to say they're bad just some people have over taken them in recent years.
Beppe and lukabrate been mentioned as rising names and I agree but beintheunknown has got really strong recently too and not seen any recognition for him so thought I'd shout him out
Davy Jones, man of the moment, chip leading the 25k WSOP event with 14 left
What’s his name?
I'll have to respond, especially after you've been poo emoticoning me when I get stacked lately.. I guess you're trying to disrupt the discipline! 5 hands without a recreational 😮 across GG/ACR looks like i've played a lot more HU hands then you the last couple of years.I am not a fan of the current ACR lobby system in comparison to what it was previously when I liked to play
Bro every player has the right to fling a lil poo
U gotta dust off stand up and fling it back
