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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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A year after he went on his tirade where he kept misusing "ad hominem" and he still doesn't know what it means.


by DonkJr m

A year after he went on his tirade where he kept misusing "ad hominem" and he still doesn't know what it means.

Seems like he is being misled by his AI overlords.

Has anyone else ever heard of the term 'red herring' used as an argumental fallacy? I've only ever heard it used when related to fictional plots.


jb, for when you come back, some legit advice:

I was curious about how long it had been since the ad homimem thing you were doing last year, so I was searching through the old thread. I was actually very surprised that the topic of your tirade back in October/November 2023 was

"My complaint you are in the middle of is that BGP won't allow the phrase 'proxy-war', to refer to the ukrain/russia conflict."

I mean, it's been over eight months since you have brought this one up. Let's find some new material, eh? I personally think your posts and the subsequent back-and-forth are very entertaining, but not when it is all a rerun.


by jbouton m

So BGP now can't quote every single post I make and invalidate it without addressing the content? That would be great yes.

You did this to me less than 48h ago when my cnn and washington post links were deemed fake because those outlets are apparently fake news.


by rafiki m

You did this to me less than 48h ago when my cnn and washington post links were deemed fake because those outlets are apparently fake news.

His problem seems to be specifically that a green-name poster is doing that. I can understand that he assumes more people will take the comments of a green name more seriously, but I don't think it would be fair to disallow someone who is a mod in a different forum from participating in this one.


Saying Ritter is a convicted sex offender who fled to Russian to work for RT which is a Russian media source is not an ad hominem. This is strong evidence that their position is whatever they are told, and not necessarily a position they arrived at themselves. It also says they would be stating things even if they know it to be false.

If your argument doesn't hold water because all of the sources can easily be discredited, then you need a better argument; suggesting I should not point out Russian media propaganda is just insane. You have been casting doubt on my sources for a long time now, and continue to do so. You just called one of the best sources on Ukraine a "random Twitter" a few days ago. You don't want this rule, you want people to listen to you when you post incorrect information about my sources and for people to ignore me when I point out that you continue to post Russian propaganda. No. My point has merit, yours doesn't. You should focus on changing that instead of trying to accuse me of doing the things you constantly do.

The best part of this is that he's in here crying and begging for rights which he already has.


by chillrob m

His problem seems to be specifically that a green-name poster is doing that. I can understand that he assumes more people will take the comments of a green name more seriously, but I don't think it would be fair to disallow someone who is a mod in a different forum from participating in this one.

I think he's upset and being "soft modded". I guess he's been a bad boy and needs a proper hard modding.


by Bluegrassplayer m

Saying Ritter is a convicted sex offender who fled to Russian to work for RT which is a Russian media source is not an ad hominem. This is strong evidence that their position is whatever they are told, and not necessarily a position they arrived at themselves. It also says they would be stating things even if they know it to be false. If your argument doesn't hold water because

Every time we get a new mod here they feel sorry for him and try to accommodate his rambling complaints for a while, until they ultimately decide it's a Sisyphean task and become part of the grand 2p2 conspiracy against him.


I'm still trying to figure out what "soft modded" means. That I've posted a far more convincing argument which has nothing to do with my mod status?


by Bluegrassplayer m

I'm still trying to figure out what "soft modded" means. That I've posted a far more convincing argument which has nothing to do with my mod status?

Ask PointlessWords, apparently he has no problem understanding everything bouton says.


by Bluegrassplayer m

I'm still trying to figure out what "soft modded" means. That I've posted a far more convincing argument which has nothing to do with my mod status?

I just posted what I think he means above, though it did take me awhile to figure out.


PW: can you explain how 'the Keynesians' fit into the events which happened in the past 30 years leading to Russia HAVING to preemptively invade Ukraine (not a mistake btw) in order to save themselves (good job!) from the existential threat posed by USA?


by chillrob m

His problem seems to be specifically that a green-name poster is doing that. I can understand that he assumes more people will take the comments of a green name more seriously, but I don't think it would be fair to disallow someone who is a mod in a different forum from participating in this one.

Thanks, missed this when I posted. He's cried foul over others proving him wrong before and named various other excuses, none of which had to do with the fact that he couldn't voice his argument in a convincing manner. I think the green name stuff is nonsense, if my name wasn't green he'd be complaining for another reason. Either way I have no plans to change the green name myself, he needs to learn to deal with it. I highly doubt it's helped my opinions come across as significantly stronger.

Besides he's constantly saying "everyone knows I'm the smartest!" and similar stuff. He loves the concept of a 'green name' which alerts people that they are super smart and always right, he just wants to be the one with the 'green name'. Well it doesn't exist, this green name says I volunteer to mod on a poker forum which has nothing to do with my arguments.


Excuse me, but he certainly is voicing his argument in a convincing manner. Didn't you read how the AI reports his communication is perfect?


by Bluegrassplayer m

PW: can you explain how 'the Keynesians' fit into the events which happened in the past 30 years leading to Russia HAVING to preemptively invade Ukraine (not a mistake btw) in order to save themselves from the existential threat posted by USA?

All those 419 scams they've been running left the Russians broke, ldo. Wait, that was the Niagarans.


by Bluegrassplayer m

Thanks, missed this when I posted. He's cried foul over others proving him wrong before and named various other excuses, none of which had to do with the fact that he couldn't voice his argument in a convincing manner. I think the green name stuff is nonsense, if my name wasn't green he'd be complaining for another reason. Either way I have no plans to change the green name mys

The man is one of the most trusted and respected sources in the industry, if he says so himself. Oddly, we didn't get a cite or a source on those claims (not even from any convicted pedos), only the ominous cloud of obvious security leaks if he is not allowed to post in the bitcoin thread hanging over us for eternity.


by chezlaw m

Anyway, amusing anacdote aside, I wasn't trying to make it about me. Anyone reasonable who lives in flats knows the solution is to tolerate each others being soemwwhat annoying a bit of the time. Too much of it or too unreasonable an activity and it's a big problem. Demanding we all dont do it all is not a good answer.

Of course and I’ve lived in flats all of my adult life, but you made it sound a lot worse than that.


It's generally not appropriate to purposefully antagonize another poster, even if you fluff it up, but JBouton was asked to take a break from here and graciously agreed. Just as I said it was improper to talk bad about Victor while he was banned, please lay off JBouton for now, at least until he's back.


by ganstaman m

It's generally not appropriate to purposefully antagonize another poster, even if you fluff it up, but JBouton was asked to take a break from here and graciously agreed. Just as I said it was improper to talk bad about Victor while he was banned, please lay off JBouton for now, at least until he's back.

Wait, am I doing the antagoising? I was told I should make more of an effort to understand him, so I'm just trying to figure out wtf he is talking about with the security stuff. If he was capable of answering a simple question with a simple response, there would be no need for me to repeat it 100 times, thereby appearing antagonistic.


by jalfrezi m

Of course and I’ve lived in flats all of my adult life, but you made it sound a lot worse than that.

I had it as easy as anyone but lockdown was a tough time for many.


by chezlaw m

I had it as easy as anyone but lockdown was a tough time for many.

Headphones for an hour a day.


by d2_e4 m

Wait, am I doing the antagoising? I was told I should make more of an effort to understand him, so I'm just trying to figure out wtf he is talking about with the security stuff. If he was capable of answering a simple question with a simple response, there would be no need for me to repeat it 100 times, thereby appearing antagonistic.

Yeah d2, you seem to be antagonistic toward jb. Mostly for your own amusement. Not fair since the arguments you make also seem on point. But lets give a rest for a while please.


by King Spew m

Yeah d2, you seem to be antagonistic toward jb. Mostly for your own amusement. Not fair since the arguments you make also seem on point. But lets give a rest for a while please.

Sigh. Fine. Can't even get a laugh at another poster's expense around here any more. I guess I'll go back to trolling Luciom and the Trumpets.


by Bluegrassplayer m

I'm still trying to figure out what "soft modded" means. That I've posted a far more convincing argument which has nothing to do with my mod status?

He means you’re guiding the conversation in a way that people without green letters cannot, due to Telling people what they can and can’t discuss (even if those are the rules) feels like soft modding to J

Can you blame him?

by d2_e4 m

Ask PointlessWords, apparently he has no problem understanding everything bouton says.

What’re you having issue with?

by Bluegrassplayer m

PW: can you explain how 'the Keynesians' fit into the events which happened in the past 30 years leading to Russia HAVING to preemptively invade Ukraine (not a mistake btw) in order to save themselves (good job!) from the existential threat posed by USA?

Assuming keynesian economics loves the stock market, clearly the military industrial complex needed more profits and decided to goad Russia into a way by arming Russias neighbors along its borders.


by PointlessWords m

He means you’re guiding the conversation in a way that people without green letters cannot, due to Telling people what they can and can’t discuss (even if those are the rules) feels like soft modding to J

Can you blame him?

I haven't done this, so yes, I do blame him.

Assuming keynesian economics loves the stock market, clearly the military industrial complex needed more profits and decided to goad Russia into a way by arming Russias neighbors along its borders.

There should be no need to assume anything. Just point to J's posts which explain what the Keynesians did and tell me, don't speculate on your own.

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