What are the lowest rake casino cash games in the world?
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone knows where the lowest rake in low stakes cash games in the world is? I'm thinking of m
There are poker rooms in the US which don't have rake at all, at least in Oregon and Texas. Instead you pay a daily fee for entry. At the Portland venue where I occasionally play, you pay $20 for entry and then play as long as you want to. Years ago I played once at a room in Ohio which did this, and I believe there is a new place in Kentucky doing the same thing.
Lowest rake in the world is probably Wiesbaden in Germany. They take 2 euros per pot, no matter how big the pot or what the stakes are. They have 2/4 and 5/10 there. The only thing is that they expect 1% of the pot as a tip, so if the pot 5k, they want 50 euros.The next best rake is Northern England. In Liverpool, for example, they take 5% capped at £5 + £1 for promotions. But
There are still a good number of places in the US which have less than $5 rake. The rooms in Washington take $4 (they mostly have significant promo drops as well, but they're good at getting that money back to the players). Some rooms also have a time charge in higher limit games which usually ends up cheaper than paying rake.
We can try to open the rake v seat fee conversation here .. it may or may not take off. May already be another older thread on that too. IMO 'fee' is just another word for 'rake', it's just that the amount is fixed, max and min, for all to see before they sit down (out of necessity to possibly get around Gaming regulations).
Poker Clubs are starting to pop up where they can 'get away' with it. My understanding is that Ohio's clubs (at least 4) have been around long before Texas brought them to the YouTube mainstream. I had not heard of Oregon's rooms, but Louisville, KY has had a fledgling room for maybe a year and now also has a room that Chris Moneymaker is behind. Michigan had a room that was probably legal, but was 'raided' by Gaming and the founder doesn't have the funds to run it through the courts to prove otherewise.
Indiana's charity poker system is very liberal, basically uncapped, but is on the rake system.
Some of the new poker Apps are charging 'to open and run/rent' the table and by the hand. Is this rake or a 'fee'?
Based on one number shown above .. this Player is -EV going to the club since his hourly rake is well below the hourly fee(s).
We use the English language .. many words can mean close to the same thing. If money that could be used to buy chips is going towards something else or slowing being removed from the game it's an expense that Recs probably don't consider, Regs discuss on days their losing overall and an invisible expense that Pros should consider but is a wash as far as their net income (different thread for that one). GL
We use the English language .. many words can mean close to the same thing. If money that could be used to buy chips is going towards something else or slowing being removed from the game it's an expense that Recs probably don't consider, Regs discuss on days their losing overall and an invisible expense that Pros should consider but is a wash as far as their net income (diffe
But you use the English language a bit differently than others. You capitalize many nouns in a way which is not standard in English. Are you a native German speaker?
While I'm slightly German, much less than expected via 23andMe, I'm just capitalizing poker terms for a touch more emphasis, like an actual proper noun would be. I know it's not correct as is my use of ' .. ' within my paragraphs instead of just double spaced new sentences or commas. English was always a weak point in my education and I'm still famous for my relentless use of run-on sentences by a couple teachers! GL
There are still a good number of places in the US which have less than $5 rake. The rooms in Washington take $4 (they mostly have significant promo drops as well, but they're good at getting that money back to the players). Some rooms also have a time charge in higher limit games which usually ends up cheaper than paying rake.
Which rooms in Washington are you referring to?
I play often at Last Frontier in La Center, about half an hour north of Portland and occasionally at Fortune Poker in Renton, around 15 minutes south of Seattle.
There are several other smaller poker rooms in the suburbs of Seattle, I've been to a few. There are a few others scattered around the state which I have never been to.
I play often at Last Frontier in La Center, about half an hour north of Portland and occasionally at Fortune Poker in Renton, around 15 minutes south of Seattle.
There are several other smaller poker rooms in the suburbs of Seattle, I've been to a few. There are a few others scattered around the state which I have never been to.
Wow really? That's intriguing as I'd heard that NLHE cash games are illegal in Washington state. A few old timers where I play said there there were limit holdem games there, but that was all. So perhaps the law changed recently?
https://www.tarah.org/2015/08/24/how-was...
The article above from 2015 seems to confirm that NLHE was banned in Washington back then too.
I didn't say anything about no-limit poker, I mostly play limit.
True NLH is not allowed. The maximum bet by law is $300.
Some of the rooms' websites even say they have NL, but what they really have is $3-$300 spread limit.
In 1/2 or 1/3 games with a maximum $400 buy in, they're going to play almost exactly like true NLH though.
How often does someone bet or raise more than $300 in those levels of NLH anyway?
Fortune also has 2/5 games, which I never play, but I imagine it plays a bit different than true NL. Still if someone wanted to play 2/5 NL I'm sure they'd be almost as happy playing that game.
I didn't say anything about no-limit poker, I mostly play limit.True NLH is not allowed. The maximum bet by law is $300.Some of the rooms' websites even say they have NL, but what they really have is $3-$300 spread limit.In 1/2 or 1/3 games with a maximum $400 buy in, they're going to play almost exactly like true NLH though.How often does someone bet or raise more than $300 in
Ah okay, that makes sense then - thanks for the info.
$7 rake isn't low at all. I don't think any place in Las Vegas or Atlantic City charges that much. That's even more than most places in California.
Yeah, some of the lowest rake you’ll find is in places like Resorts World Manila, where they charge around 5% capped at $7 USD equivalent. In Mexico, it’s often 5% capped at $5 USD equivalent, which is pretty solid. In Vegas, you’ll find a mix, but some casinos like Horseshoe offer a good deal for lower limits, with comps and decent rake.
What stakes are you referring to?
How do you know? Are they trying to drum up business for a casino in the Philippines?
Honestly, live rake is brutal pretty much everywhere at 1/3 and 2/5. Out of the spots you mentioned, Vancouver/Montreal/Barcelona aren’t known for being cheap — you’re usually looking at ~10% capped $10+ and often a BBJ drop on top.
Some of the softer spots rake-wise I’ve seen talked about:
Casino Helsinki in Finland — 5% up to €10, with a €1 jackpot drop.
Austria (Casinos Austria) — 5% rake, cap around €20–25, no extra drops.
Suspect, not know, but that is true of most of the spam I clean up around here.
They quoted a post (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27/ca...) then edited in some additional text including a spammy link inside the quote, then added in some additional text outside the quote. The text was reasonably AI-ish. The user had 2 posts, one from a month ago that necroed up an even older thread to add a comment with no real value either.
The spammer edited the comment, presumably to add the link and to skip initial detection.
I've never seen anything to dispute that poker rake in the US is the lowest you can find.Do you play online, live or both? Another huge consideration as there are US states where both live and online exist with NV, MI and PA right up there. I do believe there's some pool combining in the mix for some online sites, but revenue sharing and details have been in the works for a l
I'm not sure if online poker would be profitable if the new tax law goes into effect in 2026.
Because of the low margins in the cash games.
I hope that's not true.
I’ve seen some spots in Vegas where the rake is lower during off-peak hours, but most still have that high max rake cap. I started messing around on maxcasino recently, and the rake structure felt way more reasonable compared to a lot of live rooms I’ve played in. Makes a noticeable difference in the long sessions when the rake doesn’t eat so much of your stack.
Yeah, that setup feels way more fair than bleeding chips to rake every hand. Paying a flat fee like $20 and just grinding as long as you want takes the sting out, especially for low-stakes players. I wish more rooms adopted that model instead of squeezing every pot. Online, it’s even trickier — some sites rake so hard it kills the game. Been messing around on
lately, and while it’s not poker-only, at least the terms feel cleaner than a lot of the big names.
