Semi bluff late in wsop day 2?
Hey all got a big hand from day 2 late. Sun running bad have 40-50bb deep in $1500FO. Ok so stacks are 30-35 bb avg- don’t have counts from hand. 7 or 8 handed with 30ish left. Min open from ep, flat from button, and I have 78o in bb. Flop is 9-10-2. X bet of 120k, I make it 420k and opener folds. Button flats. Turn K. I lead 500k with my bluff. He tank jams I snap fold. Do you hate this spot. I don’t have stacks and bbs bc this happened few days ago. I think it’s probably a bad bluff as we don’t have Kx really etc but I’m like might as well not give up on turn. Gotta go for it I feel right and put max pressure on?
I made day 3 and finished with 2 tables left- committed a icm punt for a pay jump if $3.3k with shorties left when I had 18 bb. Min open qq, bb defend flop is A35 two of one suit. I cbet 120k he makes it 320k I Jam bc I have the better Ax he calls 24 for showers. Did this with someone at 3-4 bb at my table which was icm suicide lol. Feel free to laugh at this. Got a 15k score but still extremely upset at myself.
Day 3 started with 11 bb and found some solid spots to chip up without going all in per se. Did jam 78dd over an ep open and he folds for a nice 4.5bb pick up against guy that played very big triton mtts and had insane Hendon mob. Extremely bummed with tourny results.
Also vegas is live. $1600 at Wynn played softer than $400 northeast tournys I felt. Got AKss in against A-10o in Wynn bounty for 120 bb mid stages after 3! And he 4! All in. Vegas is live and live poker is juicy as ever. I lost with AK for the lolz. Tournament variance is just too rough if you ask me- I might reduce it and stop playing so much bc I can’t handle the swings.
For the lolz- guy from semi bluff went on to win tourny for $400k. Insane. Def happy with my play. Day 2 spun 350k to 4 mill and sun ran the beginning of day after running so poo on day 1 minus two all in spots where I was fortunate. Jammed A2o utg with 11 bb and held Vs 99 and kk. Then jammed Q-10 suited sb Vs button: run into AK and flop straight. Standard stuff but lucky.
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87o probably marginal defend with ICM vs. UTG open/BTN flat this deep. Probably ok to call but super close, might fold 86o.
Hard to follow action when we don't know what 120k means in terms of total number of BB. (i.e., what was the size of the pot?) But as a rule probably wouldn't use 87o as bluff here, hand has too much equity and it would suck to get 3-bet jammed and have to fold. We also have some dirty outs too as J may not always be good.
Yeah, you start talking in terms of BB and then switch to chips so we have no idea what the meaningful info is about the postflop action.
Generally agree though that I wouldn't check-raise here. K isn't really a good card either because it brings in QJ which is probably in villain's flop bet/call range (they may not always bet with it but they'll definitely call the check-raise with it). What are you trying to represent with this line?
Definitely don't like the second hand because I don't think any Ax hands ever check-raise/fold here. It's either air or something they're going with for your stack. And they can certainly have two pair some amount of the time here. And, obviously, once in a while a straight.
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I like how you played it - you have more on T92 then your opponents, not sure how deep you were here but assuming there's room it looks good. Would definitely bluff the King turn - sucks when he has QJ but there's plenty of other hands to make up for the bluff being correct.
I like how you played it - you have more on T92 then your opponents, not sure how deep you were here but assuming there's room it looks good. Would definitely bluff the King turn - sucks when he has QJ but there's plenty of other hands to make up for the bluff being correct.
Not sure I would conclude this given the flat from the button is often PP/SC that will connect well with this board (it's not GTO but that's what people typically do it with where I play).
Need more info on whether V is rec or good.
Not sure I would conclude this given the flat from the button is often PP/SC that will connect well with this board (it's not GTO but that's what people typically do it with where I play).
Need more info on whether V is rec or good.
The EP is more of a concern given they have JJ-AA,TT,99,AT that won't fold. The other question is what is their cbet frequency - if they cbet extremely high then raising is better, if they're tighter calling is better. The turn is very close between betting and checking - looking at this deeper I think I'd check given I don't think QQ+ folds.
I can’t really tell if this is a HH or just a blog entry about your time at WSOP, I’m happy for you though.
Or I’m sorry for your loss.
Like honestly all your hands are spew. 78 looks like straight draw I dont think you fold anything out.
QQ just some dumb ****.
78s spew, A2os UTG spew, QTs sb v btn, close but probably spew given your image and short stack?
Spew more. PAKOUR
QQ hand. When you get raised on an A-high flop just fold. Don't like shoving representing a big ace at all. He knew the board favored your range and raised anyway. You can't win every time you have a good starting hand. It also might not be a cbet with QQ.
I would just call with 87o and the OESD 3-way and reevaluate on the turn.
Like the other poster said, the hands mostly look spewy.
QQ hand. When you get raised on an A-high flop just fold. Don't like shoving representing a big ace at all. He knew the board favored your range and raised anyway. You can't win every time you have a good starting hand. It also might not be a cbet with QQ.
I would just call with 87o and the OESD 3-way and reevaluate on the turn.
Like the other poster said, the hands mostly look spewy.
I agree on the spew. I feel the QQ hand, that’s an auto Cbet against a bb defend I feel
Super small bc they fold so damn often. I think I need to fold flop raise or just call and re Eval due to insane icm pressure. The bubble jump for one person out was $3300 or in that range and we should try to outlast the super short stacks (might have been easily 2-3 ready to bust) if we just fold.
Big mistake on my end- my goofy thought was Ax small is prolly folding to a flop jam unless two pair bc I have all the strong Ax in my open range. Poorly played by me. Still think 2-4 suited is a meh defend even though I can see how suited would call. We are printing money against that hand with super small 1-1.5 bb cbets I feel.
For clarity, this is the QQ hand on the A53 2-flush board with 18xBB versus BB defender, who checkraised your cbet and you shoved.
Oh, he had 42s for a straight. With ante, it is an OK defend getting like 4.5-1 immediate pot odds. The thing is, since you have the range advantage and he raises anyway, he is probably strong.
If he had a weak ace, he would probably just call down. The raise is generally either he can beat AK, is semibluffing or pure bluffing. A donk who raised with a weak ace would probably call a shove anyway. You could shove with a flush draw or whatever. Don't think he has semibluffs or bluffs enough that you can continue.
