Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Victor posted that or isn't possible for Israel to show compassion and you were fine with it but not my reply
Victor is infuriated that anyone could believe that isreal could treat anyone with compassion and no issue
But
No issue with Victor but my post isn't okay
You really see no bias there? Alright then
Regarding my posts to trolly:
I'm not surprised I got a timeout for replying to trollys attacks but i sincerely doubt trolly would have gotten his if I didn't reply the way I did
He constantly
I'm not going to do this with you for very long so I'll address this once and then its done.
Victor is allowed to have the above opinion regarding the treatment of the local population by the Israeli government, which was the context of that conversation, and didn't direct it toward anyone specifically. Your response with the "Israelis" in quotes was very clearly implying Victor is an antisemite and his opinion is actually pertaining to Jews, which is not what he said, and your characterization of it is not allowed. Its in the OP of the thread specifically, you personally have been warned for it before, and you either know better and did it anyway or still have some learning to do.
If you had only made the one post about another poster in the thread today that may have been one thing, but as usual there are multiple problematic posts you have aimed toward others. Maybe it would have been more fair to give you another 24 hours since you just came off a timeout for this exact issue, but I've been trying to keep it light where possible. So you're welcome. Try not to be a problem in this thread now instead.
Completely true. I put them through samsung ai and either used professional edit or polite edit depending on the post.
I would use it on every post but
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The ai won't work when it has words like genocide in it
I did try
Maye you should attempt your own professional and polite edits. You had no issues when you were using the bot. It might be a good instructional tool.
This thread was much better when it was about panda cabals. I say bouton should be freed.
I'm not going to do this with you for very long so I'll address this once and then its done.
Victor is allowed to have the above opinion regarding the treatment of the local population by the Israeli government, which was the context of that conversation, and didn't direct it toward anyone specifically. Your response with the "Israelis" in quotes was very clearly implying Victor is an antisemite and his opinion is actually pertaining to Jews, which is not what he said, and your characterization o
This platform serves as a designated space for constructive discussions, does it not? On a previous occasion, I was restricted from participating sitewide due to my post in a moderation-related thread. While the reasoning behind this action remains unclear to me, I had assumed that such threads were intended to facilitate open dialogue regarding moderation decisions.
Moving forward, I will make a concerted effort to refrain from using quotation marks in my posts, provided that this was the sole issue with my previous contribution.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Regardless, I appreciate the lack of a 24-hour ban. Thank you! �� #NoBan #Thankful
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first time trying the social edit ai
We've been over this. Someone called you a "rape denier", you responded in kind and called them a "genocide enthusiast". Both parties had seen many warnings about that exact thing and knew not to do it. Both parties ate a 24 hr ban.
I have repeatedly warned the thread not to characterize one another or the thread at large, and continue on a daily basis to have to moderate that exact issue. If someone calls you a "terrorist supporter", feel free to report the post and it will be moderated. I'm no
CN, I was replying with a counter example to a mets post complaining that moderation is apparently skewed against #teamIDF, not complaining about moderation myself.
Not sure why I clicked show post, but as usual, you're lying about what I said �� #fakenews #lies #deception
You, jal, said that she favors our side. I said that is definitely incorrect. Show me where that says she favors your side? ��
It doesn't. It just says she doesn't favor the Israeli side. Which is true ��*♀️ #facts #truth #reality
Mets, what you see as bias is actually just your own total lack of accountability.
You may not take little digs at people anytime someone posts something you dislike. You are a bully in that thread and a whiner in this one, and it gets OLD.
You are correct. I am the worst. I apologize for any inconvenience I have caused. I am Almost as bad as the idf. I'll bid you adieu for the day.
same thing was happening with me in another thread
one poster was making baseless accusations of me, refused to show their work, so i made it abundantly clear that i would just start calling that person a rapist
obviously gangsta had zero issue with the original offender and their baseless insults of me calling me a racist, but my response, which was clearly a joke as a response caught me a ban whereas the other person wasn't even told to stop
terrible decision by gangsta because it rewards the ori
The exact same thing happened to me when Victor kept accusing me and others of supporting baby killing, so I said something just as unfounded about him and got a temp ban for it.
lol I just saw trump and biden are debating in like 4 hours? Im usually late to the game for this stuff but I would have imagined a thread for that.
Edit: There could be and I didnt even bother to check. I am definitely not asking for one.
...Completely ignore this post.
I don't expect you to be convinced, but here's my explanation:
1) I think being called a rapist is worse than being called a racist.
2) You made a post about race (which I thought was fine and appropriate):
And he responded with this:
Which isn't the same as just calling him a rapist baselessly.
3) He only continued to explain himself when you pushed back:
On the other hand, you called him a rapist out of nowhere multiple times. I told you to stop. You continued anyway, which is what got you the 1-day
It was not "out of nowhere", the connection to rape was mentioned with the first use.
Mets, what you see as bias is actually just your own total lack of accountability.
You may not take little digs at people anytime someone posts something you dislike. You are a bully in that thread and a whiner in this one, and it gets OLD.
This is inappropriate. Honestly, please do not harass posters. This is ridic.
Ofc I reported it
I'm terrible at finding old posts and I don't remember exactly what was started before that, but it was something about male rapists saying they are now trans to be placed in a women's prison.
It's not a great inference, but it's no worse than it being inferred that mets is a racist. I've never seen him post anything racist.
When someone has attacked you, I don't think it is inappropriate to fight back more strongly than you were hit.
Interestingly, that applies both to this verbal exchange and to the actual literal attacks which the thread is about.
I'm terrible at finding old posts and I don't remember exactly what was started before that, but it was something about male rapists saying they are now trans to be placed in a women's prison.
It's not a great inference, but it's no worse than it being inferred that mets is a racist. I've never seen him post anything racist.
When someone has attacked you, I don't think it is inappropriate to fight back more strongly than you were hit.
Interestingly, that applies both to this verbal exchange and to
Much appreciated Rob
That is what gets me in trouble. I'm accused of loving genocide, being racist, supporting the killing of babies and I get so annoyed I hit back super hard and get a timeout or a ban.
It's like the kid in school who gets jumped fights back and gets suspended. I see it happen all the time and try to defend the kid who gets jumped from getting punished
IDF is genocidal and racist. And they have admitted it
You support that.
Why’re you annoyed?
