2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
There were decent numbers of De Santis MAGA people who criticized him on character and behaviour during primaries.
But after those end, you behave like a good soldier, we aren't talking about the left which is permanent disarray, there is an imperative moral duty to win above all other considerations at all times after you choose the leader, whomever he or she is, for the right in general.
That's true in general for other rightwing candidates in other countries as well. The right tends to be comp
You don't understand U.S. politics nearly as well as you think you do.
I think he's more or less correct there. The GOP is an opposition party.
I will admit that I haven't really listened to Biden talk in the last few years. He sounds absolutely awful tonight. I admit I am shocked.
DonkJr, what's pertinent is federal government's policies. What if any policies will the next administration try to instill and sustain, or hinder, or terminate?
The next president's age and health is only a factor if we're concerned about the next vice president's willingness and ability to continue the next president's policies. The character of the administration, it's integrity to uphold its promises and retain the confidence of other nation's governments is a factor to consider.
Among the reasons I'm opposed to Trump is he personally has always, even when he was president, sought and acted in his own interests with less regard for the best interests of our nation. I'm unconcerned about the sound of candidate's voices. Respectfully Supposn
Maybe make the age range like 35 to 67. Whatever SS retirement age is, then you got to go.
They have mandatory retirement ages for pilots, seems reasonable to have them for Presidents and Senators.
He did good because he answered all the questions? JFC...
Centrist or even rightwing democrats on immigration and other topics poll 8-10-12% higher than Biden in purple or red areas.
That doesn't look like a cult at all, rather people motivated by precise policy preferences
DonkJr, what's pertinent is federal government's policies. What if any policies will the next administration try to instill and sustain, or hinder, or terminate?
The next president's age and health is only a factor if we're concerned about the next vice president's willingness and ability to continue the next president's policies.
This is partly correct, of course, but not entirely so.
The president is more than a basket of policy positions. People consistently underestimate the likelihood that a U.S. president will have to deal with an acute crisis. That's a problem if the president isn't up the task. And it's an especially big problem if the president fails to appreciate that he isn't up to the task.
Centrist or even rightwing democrats on immigration and other topics poll 8-10-12% higher than Biden in purple or red areas.
That doesn't look like a cult at all, rather people motivated by precise policy preferences
The existence of conservative voters motivated by policy preferences is not proof of non-existence of a Trump cult. I did not say that every conservative voter was a Trump cultist.
Just in case you were wondering, this thread is exactly why there is no "Biden cult" as you call it. Note how the left leaning posters here are the first to criticise Biden when criticism is warranted. When was the last time you saw the MAGA chuds here say a bad word about Trump? They either defend him or deflect with whataboutism and "TDS", even when he says and does completely ridiculous and moronic things. This is one of the reasons that MAGA is a Trump cult.
plenty of "left leaning" people had been criticizing Biden's sundowning for months and years. they were called conspiracy theorists and Russian trolls.
Me
we are at the "silent Biden voters according to MSNBC" stage
With how relatively poorly Trump did in that debate (obv Biden was the Titanic), I don't get why they don't announce a Newsom-Obama ticket inside the next 5 days, win, and Michelle bails a year in for personal reasons.
I gotta think that ticket becomes an instant favorite even on short time. Michelle is asked to give 16 months for her country kind of thing,.
I don't think Michelle wants it
But i agree it probably becomes the favorite
Any change is probably a bad look for Kamala though
no, I just think that your post ignores that most Dem supporters were extremely supportive of Biden's mental ability up until last night while many others had been pointing out his shortcomings for years.
plenty of "left leaning" people had been criticizing Biden's sundowning for months and years. they were called conspiracy theorists and Russian trolls.
plenty of left leaning people have been criticizing Trump's sundowning for months and years. they were called conspiracy theorists and Russian trolls
Thats the state of things.
If anyone watched the debate last night and thinks Trump is the obvious vote, you've lost the plot. He was hopped up on adderall and can't answer simple questions or keep a single coherent line of thought past one sentence. Hes amalgamating multiple lies into simple responses. The whole country is cooked. Just watch the Obama and Romney debate from 15 years ago. The intellectual drain is on full display.
Someone is going to win, one side is going to dunk on the other, throw insults, pretend to be happy, then we get 4 more years of misery. **** you all
no, I just think that your post ignores that most Dem supporters were extremely supportive of Biden's mental ability up until last night while many others had been pointing out his shortcomings for years.
Ive only seen one mistake from last night. He did way better than I thought. I gave it a 25% chance he has a heart attack
plenty of left leaning people have been criticizing Trump's sundowning for months and years. they were called conspiracy theorists and Russian trolls
Thats the state of things.
If anyone watched the debate last night and thinks Trump is the obvious vote, you've lost the plot. He was hopped up on adderall and can't answer simple questions or keep a single coherent line of thought past one sentence. Hes amalgamating multiple lies into simple responses. The whole country is cooked. Just watch th
4 more years of misery was exactly my thought as well.. This is a nightmare
Realistically it’s at least 4 more years of misery. Misery tends to compound over time
