2p2 data breach/security exploit

What is cooperative poker as an extension of moral poker?

Why are you making things up? I'm not pretending anything - there are so many different poker sites.

I'm under the impression some sites and games are better than others but there are definitely issues on some of the platforms. There are definitely sites that seem to be monitoring for people who are working together or using the bot accounts/RTA

I didn’t shut down the conversation; I shut down the conversation having an audience. It was the middle of the night and the mods for this forum weren’t available.

My primary concern is always to mitigate possible harm that might be experienced by individual posters, and that includes Jbouton, who has been both the subject and perpetrator of abusive posting in the past.

If both parties want to have this conversation publicly and the mods for this forum are okay with that, then there is no issue.

Everyone knows if you lose your reputation on 2p2 you lose it in the poker industry. I was cancelled. And my ideas were made to not exist, and this went against the betterment of the game. And now I have proof of the long term concerted effort to hide the concept of effective rake and colluded against the players to control it.

You were lead to believe I have mental illness and you are witness to the truth of that. And I know myself that you aren't being honest about this. I was in the mod forums and read when you became a mod.

You KNOW they did this to you. And I KONW you do.

I have the thickest skin here. All I wanted was FAIR moderation.

I'm not making ANYTHING UP. I'm WELL known for integrity in this regard.

I'm a moral poker player.

Phil Ivey endorsed virtue poker. Virtue poker made claims that in and of themselves are highlights of insecurity. THEY claimed to offer p2p secure shuffling and dealing. It was a lie.

Does anyone think phil ivey is going to support responsible disclosure to the players?

Are people understanding the things I'm getting at?

I am not qualified, nor do I find it appropriate, to publicly comment on anyone’s mental health, and I do not support the stigmatization of any mental health condition. I hold no negative beliefs about you; only a continued concern for your own well being and those you interact with.

There have never been any comments in the mod forum from me or directed to me regarding you or your mental health, and if you believe that not to be true then I must inform you that you are mistaken.

I will always endeavor to treat you fairly, as I do to others, regardless of any personally held opinions I may have on various topics.

Joey is daniel negreanu's small ball book good poker?

I don't think that's true about 2p2, plenty of people have bad reputations here for some reason and are fine in the poker industry.

I can see what you're saying if you primarily are existing in the digital world and this is the place you feel like you have to be to get your opinions out there.

Can chat for a little bit longer today but lets make it impactful to getting your ideas out there so the other moderators can make a decision if they are going to let you in NVG.

You're saying you found evidence in the mod forum of everyone cheating at poker including Ivey and DN?

A group of people POUNDED you with msgs about how I have mental illness, and stated I have mental illness, INCLUDING A PSYCHATRIST, over MANY days, and tried to tell you that I myself ADMITTED IT...this is public.

its IMPOSSIBLE for any sincere reader here, to believe that you aren't applying any bias, when you admit you don't have training in this regard.

I'm not calling you a liar. I'm saying you are admitting what I'm saying. You WERE influenced. And you don't have any training decide they lied to you.

But you have a ton of evidence now that shows they are liars and they are ACTIVELY trying to suppress the truth. You stopped me from talking yesterday and I believe you did it sincerely. So I heeded, and didn't give you ANY hard time about it.

No I was canceled. I couldn't exist in the community. I'm not American I can't join the live community etc. And this problem spanned to my Canadian connections as well.

I want a better world and a better game, this isn't about me. But I lost my poker career over it. thats for sure.

Daniel Negraneua sold the players the lie that more rake makes the games more profitable. And he did it on YOUR show. This was at the SAME TIME p2p poker talk was backlisted.

And THEN on top of this guys like IVEY, came out with their OWN endorsements for FAKE p2p poker. Advertised as SECURE p2p poker implementations but these sites not p2p poker and not secure.

You understand on an insecure site where phil ivey endorsement is the basis of the lie this is a site that in effective has a dramatically high rake?

I haven't complained about you. I'm just pointing out that when you became mod of Politics sub, the old guard warned each other that you might be reading things carefully.

And then they tricked you into thinking that I didn't something nefarious to king spew, when really they were dming me something wildly inappropriate.

You see its really difficult to present right, until I KNOW I can speak to the players.

Joey is dnegs strategy in this book good poker? Whats YOUR opinion that you would tie your rep?

I did nothing wrong by having Daniel on my show to talk about whatever he wanted to talk about - I was running a poker YouTube channel talking about the game of poker on Pokerstars, WSOP. Everyone tries to spin their own narrative. You included.

You're saying the mod forum evidence shows that everyone, including me conspired against your ability to get this idea out there and now you have the proof of the mods talking about it and the poker community has been out of line for supporting people or ideas or companies who go against what you believe to be ideal poker.

Is dnegs book on small poker and example of GOOD poker. Or is he selling BAD poker to the players and CALLING it GOOD poker?

Will you speak against the old guard?

it depends on your definition of strategy, book, good, poker, your, opinion, tie your rep because you have your own interpretation of these ideas.

I've never read this book

He is marketing his strategy to the world and if people believe it they will buy it - that is how the internet works. People always have an issue with someone's belief system and they counter act that with their own ideas.

2007: dnegs gets that sweet stars cash
2008: releases a book telling everyone to get involved in tons of small rakeable hands

i mean **** it why not. people have been burned at the stake based on less. when you factor in his later comments on higher rake being good for the game its a SLAM DUNK

See joey is looking for words that allow to him to escape from the LIE, that players like dnegs didn't work actively to destroy the game.

And then joey wants SOMEHOW to claim he didn't know this was going on. Joey wants to say "I didn't know that dnegs was advertising bad things".

Wants to say "I interview him, I tried to see where Dnegs was coming from.

But then J comes along and says, well joey you heard about my ideas about how 'LESS rake is better'?

And how come that wasn't interesting to be on your show, which I refuse to be on.

Joey has a vested interest in all this you see?

The question was will you speak against the establishment. And you don't read poker books, so you have no comment.

I argued to the players that dnges was selling bad poker to the players and you said to me I should go on a stream and prove I'm good.

Well joey, what GTO mean? Do you understand the question? I was canceled for pointing out that all the thought leaders in poker are selling misinformation to the players...

whats GTO?

to be fair, getting dnegs on the pod is gonna draw bigger numbers than the nash poker guy

When daniel negreanu SOUL READS an opponent at a live poker casino and figures out their EXACT hand...

Is this GOOD poker, or is that MISUNDERSTADING OF HOW POKER WORKS....

that only BAD players would believe is GOOD poker?