2p2 data breach/security exploit
Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:
Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.
Lol @button laying into Joey like he is the walking incarnation of everything wrong with poker over the last 15 years. No good deed goes unpunished, huh, Joey?
See joey is looking for words that allow to him to escape from the LIE, that players like dnegs didn't work actively to destroy the game.
And then joey wants SOMEHOW to claim he didn't know this was going on. Joey wants to say "I didn't know that dnegs was advertising bad things".
Wants to say "I interview him, I tried to see where Dnegs was coming from.
But then J comes along and says, well joey you heard about my ideas about how 'LESS rake is better'?
And how come that wasn't interesting to be
I was getting 100s of messages about coming on my show from people with all types of ideas, it wasn't anything against any of the ideas if I didn't have them on the show.
Of course I have a vested interest in the poker world, I've been apart of it for about 20 years. I still enjoy playing the game but not much the world around it. I wasn't censoring your less rake is better idea.
I barely knew DN when we did that interview, I thought he was a poker legend and the best poker ambassador of all time, I used to look up to him a lot.
I can see what you're saying that less rake poker should be promoted as equal as more rake is better poker but I wasn't a fan proponent of more rake is better thesis either.
Joey, how come you haven't put an end to all the rake, cheating, multi-accounting, bad poker books, greedy poker sites, unfair forum moderation, wars, anthropogenic climate change, terrorism, and my neighbour's dog shitting in my back yard? DON'T YOU CARE JOEY!!???!!!
Lol @button laying into Joey like he is the walking incarnation of everything wrong with poker over the last 15 years. No good deed goes unpunished, huh, Joey?
lol exactly
I've barely been on here for years and this guy is upset I had the biggest poker ambassador on my talk show and not him.
I barely knew DN when we did that interview, I thought he was a poker legend and the best poker ambassador of all time, I used to look up to him a lot.
I can see what you're saying that less rake poker should be promoted as equal as more rake is better poker but I wasn't a fan proponent of more rake is better thesis either.
Right but you benefited from it immensely didn't you?
You are like on page 10 of not putting yourself on the PLAYERS side of this revelation.
I don't care about the past, but I'll continue to hold any of you to the truth of it, in order to let my ideas be presented to the players.
And there is TON of **** that the players need to know about that I have evidence for. I'm not after any big player in particular.
lol exactly
I've barely been on here for years and this guy is upset I had the biggest poker ambassador on my talk show and not him.
Is that a fair representation of everything thats happened?
This thread isn't about you, you are just a key person that has a persona that you believe in the good of the game. I'm not trying to assert judgments of that.
You are someone here trying to fish for what I can prove and what I will prove. And I'm hoping instead we can working towards responsible disclosure.
I'm patient but not purely benevolent in this regard you see, being this is about RAMPANT CHEATING.
"more rake is better" is like saying "more inflation is better"
Only the centralized authorities that benefit from such lies would promote such a thing DUCY?
Joey how are the mods going to let me in the cheating expose threads when as soon as they do I'm going to blow everything ****ING WIDE OPEN!
😀
How come EVERYONE in this entire industry everywhere I go and every site I go on knows who Nash guy is?
lol exactly
I've barely been on here for years and this guy is upset I had the biggest poker ambassador on my talk show and not him.
Dude, this guy is going to get more views than Negreanu. Have him on!
You can have BOIDS on to do simultaneous interpretation, that guy seems to have a pretty good handle of what button's going on about.
How come every single person that was around and reading this KNOWS about nash's work ideal money EVEN THO the old guard here ACTIVELY tried to hide its thesis from the players?
What is Nash's thesis? And how does it reveal CHEATING across the entire poker industry?
i've heard bouton on podcasts before, he's not scared to share his views. lets get it on
Why does the Bitcoin Mt Gox collapse have the same MO as the Full Tilt collapse?
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker by Soaker Patoshi]The label “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ" is convenient, but to be safe we should have a defined meaning for this as a party that can be criticized and contrasted with other parties.
So let us define “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ “to be descriptive of a “school of thought" that originated at the time of Black Friday on April 15 2011[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Money by John Nash]
The label “Keynesian” is convenient, but to be safe we should have a defined meaning for this as a party that can be criticized and contrasted with other parties.
So let us define “Keynesian” to be descriptive of a “school of thought” that originated at the time of the devaluations of the pound and the dollar in the early 30’s of the 20th century. Then[/QUOTE]
Prove what you know in this thread.... and maybe the mod overlords in that particular area of 2+2 might see the light.
Otherwise, yer just spinning your wheels
He CAN'T. He can't have me live, he can't give me chance to record our dialogue either.
I'm not looking for the fame either. I have TRUTH, to get to the players. They actively tried to bury it/me so I used ESOTERIC writing to make sure it couldn't be made to not exist.
Prove what you know in this thread.... and maybe the mod overlords in that particular area of 2+2 might see the light.
Otherwise, yer just spinning your wheels
NOBODY thinks I'm just spinning wheels. I have the old guard redhanded.
Ur just too slow urself, let others explain.
U were the last mod to tell others I have mental illness and then ban me posting the lie you told.
The question was will you speak against the establishment. And you don't read poker books, so you have no comment.
I argued to the players that dnges was selling bad poker to the players and you said to me I should go on a stream and prove I'm good.
Well joey, what GTO mean? Do you understand the question? I was canceled for pointing out that all the thought leaders in poker are selling misinformation to the players...
whats GTO?
Your point is making more sense now - stop misrepresenting what I said - I didn't read this specific poker book.
I've spoken about issues that are unpopular for the "establishment" more than a few times. We can argue about GTO another time. I don't think they are selling misinformation to the players about the game they are currently playing.
Right but you benefited from it immensely didn't you?
You are like on page 10 of not putting yourself on the PLAYERS side of this revelation.
I don't care about the past, but I'll continue to hold any of you to the truth of it, in order to let my ideas be presented to the players.
And there is TON of **** that the players need to know about that I have evidence for. I'm not after any big player in particular.
If I had to do it again I wouldn't have dedicated most of my life to the poker matrix as we know it today - I've enjoyed playing poker and talking about poker over the years sometimes and it's been the worst thing I ever did for other times of it. I didn't have much guidance growing up in the poker world outside the system that we built to play inside of. I can see it a lot differently now.
I'm open to the idea of the players hearing more about your ideas.
I told you that I would consider giving you a platform to present if you apologized to me
Is that a fair representation of everything thats happened?
This thread isn't about you, you are just a key person that has a persona that you believe in the good of the game. I'm not trying to assert judgments of that.
You are someone here trying to fish for what I can prove and what I will prove. And I'm hoping instead we can working towards responsible disclosure.
I'm patient but not purely benevolent in this regard you see, being this is about RAMPANT CHEATING.
I am just joking around - do you think you give a fair representation of everything? you give your own version
I am being patient as well but can't speak for others with the way you are framing your plan.
Be back later
yeah, no kidding on the esoteric
He CAN'T. He can't have me live, he can't give me chance to record our dialogue either.
I'm not looking for the fame either. I have TRUTH, to get to the players. They actively tried to bury it/me so I used ESOTERIC writing to make sure it couldn't be made to not exist.
Is that why you also frame your political opinions and all your other posting in this ESOTERIC writing? It's all starting to make so much sense.
I did apologize for swearing at you via dm. I am sorry for that. If you want other apologizes, I need to know about what, so I can be specifically sincere.
The old guard won't allow it.
no need!
bouts' writing is sometimes tough to follow, and sometimes virtually impossible to follow
but he's quite clear when speaking
I'm also clear when I KNOW my writing is SAFE. Otherwise I have to use "tricks" so that I can affect peoples psychology over time, because my actually writing is being buried.
One such trick was "Ideal Poker" as a phrase. A LOT of people know of my ideas from the title. A lot of people, even more so, know of the idea some crazy 'nash guy' has been running around the online poker community for years.
Thats the best I could do given their efforts to suppress Nash's work. Allow me now to explain. It's mind blowing.
very very victim complex like stuff.
