2p2 data breach/security exploit
Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:
Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.
Phil Ivey, endorsing virtue poker has a similar problem. Virtue poker was claiming cryptographic security solutions that NO ONE in the computer science world would dare validate as being secure. But with phil ivey's name on it, and 2p2 endorsing it. And me getting blacklisted pointing out its a scam and insecure...
How are the players supposed to protect themselves?
Do you think phil ivey is coming into dialogue because he cares that ripped the players off?
No thats what he does.
Jbouton, exactly what are your requests? Maybe we can address some of them?
All of the sincere players would like me to able to participate in the cheat expose threads. And THIS thread, should be in NVG. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THIS. The players should be aware of the truth in here.
Nash's work was banned from this site. Lets end that ban.
My work, the phrases involved, and its connection to Nash's were also banned for over 10 years. Lets undo that.
decentralized poker is the ONLY hot topic of the day. Lets open that dialogue and GUARD it from the old guards control.
Then as we bring back integrity to the game, we might find it has an exogenous effect...on our national money systems.
In order to develop the kind of concept that would be a generalization of the implementation of bitcoin but for poker...there would need to be a poker site designed WITHOUT proprietary nature. So you can't just pay a team and then take a profit from the rake later...
It has to be a COMPLETLY different design and paradigm where the entire PURPOSE of the project is to code away all of the trust third party solutions.
NONE of the new poker sites do this, they are CLAIM to use my banned phrases. They CLAIM to have p2p shuffling, they claim to have p2p poker play security etc....these are all scams.
These sites don't even TRY to have this type of security.
And LIKE DUH OBVIOUSLY....if you are going to have a p2p revolution where the players take control of the game, they need to be able to fairly coalesce in their global poker community. Because it MUST BE a community driven solution/evolution DUCY?
We can begin to understand how offensive it is, that Phil Galfond tried to tell the players he was making a poker site by the player for the players. And the first point order was to ban the discussion of decentralized p2p poker from RIO's forum.
If you think your work in this thread makes you being welcomed in NVG more likely, I have a bridge for you to sell.
Here are some old quotes from player response to such changes:
Spoiler
“Always the same answer, so tilting! “
“Well yes of course your promotions are ahead of your competitors as you are the only site that has MTT SNGs that run. Obviously now you have a monopoloy you dont give a ****, this thread is so pointless. The actual issues like lower rake on turbo’s, decent SNG structures are probably never going to happen, but please keep pretending your listening to players.”
“….. by offering players a platform to make suggestions Stars are able to cherry-pick the ideas that best suit their business, often to the detriment of the players, whilst proclaiming that they’re responding to feedback.”
“This post somewhat proves that since we went to 27 players paid that stars has been raking in more $$$$”
“There were many suggestions earlier in this thread; the feedback was positive, but nothing got done. ”
“please for the love of god change the payout structure back to 18 ”
“is there a PS-rep in this thread or? ”
“Haha, I think we’ve been promised this for at least 2 years if not more. ”
“There was a “wide range of opinions” on the new 180 payouts, you still needlessly butchered the hell outta that. ”
“lol. Could you be more flakey?”
“I’m really losing my patience with you – stop treating your userbase like they’re idiots. ”
“sigh Baard, gl with your “increase rake on other games to make a stupid high-rake anomaly appear consistent” plan! Loving your work!”
“I find it ridiculous that PokerStars’ own SNG rep does not know that you only have a very low edge on bounties. ”
“wow ”
“What a pathetic response regarding the rip off rake. ”
“On top of the fail of not understanding why the rake should be reduced, I just think the stubbornness on this one is lol. Stars must really need that extra $3 a day”
“All this is obvious and been said before but you seem to have no understanding that freezeout/rebuy/ko 180s should all be raked differently.”
“We’re not campaigning for a “rake break”; we just expect to see consistency and some semblance of fairness in your raking structure”
“C’mon LO, let’s not mince words. Baard clearly understands, he’s just out here defending a ****ty policy. ”
“I’ve played on your site for 8 years, and this is the most disgusting behaviour from a site rep that I’ve seen in that time. Either you’re incompetent, and you really still don’t understand why the bounty element of KO tournaments is not raked, or you’re deliberately misleading your customers and attempting to explain away a 100% rake increase. Either way I now have no confidence in you as a forum rep,”
“I’m pretty disappointed by the current stance on the matter, will be boycotting them until the rake is sorted. ”
“Baard whenever you or someone else think its time to justify the “we feel like it should stay as it is right now” attitude please, be our guest.”
“This is disgusting and borderline scummy, am shocked at this response”
“it’ll also go down as one of the most misguided attempts at a money grab in history, as stars would make more money if they raked the games fairly, with the added bonus of not unnecessarily pissing off a group of loyal customers.”
“Still holding out some hope for this just being a misunderstanding though, presumably the moment a stars rep who actually understands the games sees this decision he’ll reverse it.”
“This gets asked every bloody week and the answer is always no.”
“either it’s an innocent mistake or you’re being slightly disingenuous there Baard;”
“Stars stance is that they won’t have games start on break as they think it’s a change that recreational players wont like. I think that’s ridiculous personally but I expect that’s the answer you’ll get.”
“CAN YOU ACTUALLY COMMENT ON BB1K IN 18’S INSTEAD OF IGNORING IT? PRAPS YOU CAN READ THIS IN BOLD. TY”
“It’s actually a pretty sad indictment of Stars’ vice-like grip on the poker market that they can be this brazen about it”
Here is a small example of what 2p2 hid from the greater community about me:
“100% agree with all adyo says no matter what way he comes across” http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpo...
“OP has since been chased off the site but there’s really nothing to lose by exploring what he has to say instead of just assuming he’s an idiot when clearly he’s not.” http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpo...
“And I agree that OP is an intelligent guy who makes some worthwhile points”. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61/mtt...
“OP clearly has a clue regardless of whether people understand where he’s going with this conversation”. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61/mtt...
“Newdude, I’d like to thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and knowledge on this topic with our forum. ” http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/new...
“I’m interested what newdude has to say about this stuff. I’ll definitely be sticking around this thread and chiming in whenever I can. ” http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/new...
“Adyo you have some very advanced views on a very complex business, especially for someone professing ignorance. Your posts and views are very much reflective of a person with a very sharp learning curve who is applying his existing knowledge to a new field, in that some views are incredibly level 7….” http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61/mtt...
"A poker site needs to believe in the dream of poker as a career." ~Phil Galfond RIO Poker
A poker site needs to be secure Phil. From the PLAYERS perspective NOT THE OWNERS.
RIO poker didn't make ANY of the considerations as described on ****************
RIO poker's forum BANNED all of the associated technological advancements and solutions that were available that I highlighted and explained.
You would thus be a FOOL to have followed Phil to RIO, when they simply extended the false narrative that good poker is bad poker and bad poker is good poker.
If you think your work in this thread makes you being welcomed in NVG more likely, I have a bridge for you to sell.
Also the old guard is wondering how they got hacked.
On a superficial level its clear, but you see this wasn't supposed to happen.
It happened because someone trusted a TTP
So you see I'm not the security leak. I'm the security expert.
And there IS evidence of this issue in the mod threads...there is a problem. And I don't think they were otherwise previously aware of it, but I could tell before I was exposed to the open back door.
Congrats great guys...small ball poker eh...
How come dnegs doesn't know how hand ranges work?
I love how none of the links to the supposed endorsements of button actually work lol.
Button, maybe you could use that world renowned expertise of yours and fix your links?
All of the sincere players would like me to able to participate in the cheat expose threads. And THIS thread, should be in NVG. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THIS. The players should be aware of the truth in here.
Nash's work was banned from this site. Lets end that ban.
My work, the phrases involved, and its connection to Nash's were also banned for over 10 years. Lets undo that.
decentralized poker is the ONLY hot topic of the day. Lets open that dialogue and GUARD it from the old guards control.
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Have you made these requests to the owners? What did they say?
mason, the goat, comes in and explains the situation, and button still argues? with no dog in this fight, i would say that is pretty definitive. sit down....be humble....sit down...be humble.
Half your "recommendation" links go to this post (at least with 25 posts/page set):
A ringing endorsement if I've ever seen one!
Looks like that guy had your number 10 years ago.
The higher ups said this didn't they:
Do you think maybe there is a moderation clique here crossnerd that is hiding their nefarious moderation efforts from the new owners?
What did the new owners tell YOU when you told them this truth, when you found multiple accounts who's SOLE PURPOSE seems to be the harassment of other sincere posters?
What did the new owners tell you when you guys were like 'jfc you leaked EVERYTHING to the EXACT wrong person!'
HOW?!
How did it happen?
I don't understand what you're saying or what your goal is with this thread. What are your goals?
I came across about a dozen security issues, that are obviously problematic for even the old guard in this process. I don't have a FULL understanding on wtf is going on in that regard, but I think I have better idea than the old guard.
The biggest problem I see in this regard, is that when I posted a intricate explanation of how AI is a fragmented series of TTP structures...BGP stepped out of rank to discredit it.
Thats sort of the best I can point out in that regard.
Ok... I'm just saying that for the sake of moving forward, you must make it clear what you are asking for to the proper authorities available to comply with those requests, and as long as those remain vague it will be difficult to achieve a cooperative solution.
I wish you the best.
And for the PLAYERS regard, one of the teams that is allegedly working on behalf of the players vs cheaters, cut communication as soon as I said 2p2 is involved.
I don't know if thats an actual tell, but I also am clearly being blocked from the associated cheat expose threads.
Ok... I'm just saying that for the sake of moving forward, you must make it clear what you are asking for to the proper authorities available to comply with those requests, and as long as those remain vague it will be difficult to achieve a cooperative solution.
I wish you the best.
Please don't take offense, you really really have no idea whats going on right now, but there are others involved and reading this that absolutely do.
And I appreciate your efforts with me, I think you know thats true.
The biggest problem I see in this regard, is that when I posted a intricate explanation of how AI is a fragmented series of TTP structures...BGP stepped out of rank to discredit it.
Thats sort of the best I can point out in that regard.
So you think you should be allowed to post whatever you want, but no one else should be able to post their disagreement with your ideas. Pretty much the same thing you wanted in the politics forum. Sounds to me like you should start up your own website instead of expecting one owned by someone else to kowtow to your rules.
