2p2 data breach/security exploit

2p2 data breach/security exploit

Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:

by Videopro k

If it's pertaining an existing thread, otherwise ATF is the better spot.

Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.

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28 June 2024 at 08:59 PM
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Does the AI KNOW about Ideal Poker? Because its really not supposed to be AI, its actually LLM technology. We were talking about 'snapshots'. It seems like a strange question but this is what I want to be able to explore in dialogue with the players community.

Did Ideal Poker get buried on the internet? What about Nash's work? The AI could explain it all etc.

You 2p2 understands the history is going to be subject to AI critique right? Do we understand this?


by jbouton k

Please don't take offense, you really really have no idea whats going on right now, but there are others involved and reading this that absolutely do.

And I appreciate your efforts with me, I think you know thats true.

I guess you're right, I really don't.. Please know I only have positive intentions. I'll step back for now.


by jbouton k

but there are others involved and reading this

Speaking of John Nash...



by chillrob k

So you think you should be allowed to post whatever you want, but no one else should be able to post their disagreement with your ideas. Pretty much the same thing you wanted in the politics forum. Sounds to me like you should start up your own website instead of expecting one owned by someone else to kowtow to your rules.

Yes there are tons of accounts like you that get offended when others complain that they were cancel and their ideas were blacklisted from the site.

Tons of accounts like you who have ZERO interest in discussing poker. Zero interest in discussing solutions for the game that help the players and benefit the game. And you follow me.


by Crossnerd k

I guess you're right, I really don't.. Please know I only have positive intentions. I'll step back for now.

Ok but if you don't extend moderation to what d2 is doing with john nash's bio, I won't believe you that you dislike the stigmatization of mental illness.


by jbouton k

Yes there are tons of accounts like you that get offended when others complain that they were cancel and their ideas were blacklisted from the site.

Tons of accounts like you who have ZERO interest in discussing poker. Zero interest in discussing solutions for the game that help the players and benefit the game. And you follow me.

Your ideas weren't cancelled, you were. What do you want to bet I could go into any subforum you've been banned from and discuss those same ideas right now?


by jbouton k

Ok but if you don't extend moderation to what d2 is doing with john nash's bio, I won't believe you that you dislike the stigmatization of mental illness.

I was referring very narrowly to his hallucinations in the film, much like you are hallucinating that there are other people monitoring this thread.


by jbouton k

The higher ups said this didn't they:

Do you think maybe there is a moderation clique here crossnerd that is hiding their nefarious moderation efforts from the new owners?

What did the new owners tell YOU when you told them this truth, when you found multiple accounts who's SOLE PURPOSE seems to be the harassment of other sincere posters?

So you think that people (like me) who have been a member of this forum for longer than you have been, have the sole purpose of harassing you.

I have been in this forum since 2007, 10 years before you joined. I probably was playing poker long before you were was well. Have you read any of my many posts on poker strategy and poker venues, trying to help people play better poker and give them helpful information about places they might want to play?

I haven't noticed you actually posting anything to help anyone, just to complain about things.


by jbouton k

Ok but if you don't extend moderation to what d2 is doing with john nash's bio, I won't believe you that you dislike the stigmatization of mental illness.

This isn't my subforum, I have no power to moderate anything here


by jbouton k

Yes there are tons of accounts like you that get offended when others complain that they were cancel and their ideas were blacklisted from the site.

Tons of accounts like you who have ZERO interest in discussing poker. Zero interest in discussing solutions for the game that help the players and benefit the game. And you follow me.

I discuss poker all the time on this forum. Do you? Nothing in this thread is helping anyone with poker. I'll search for other posts of yours though, since you already think I'm following you anyway.

Edit: nope, nothing posted about poker since June 15, as far back as the system will show me. I posted poker strategy just yesterday.


In this scene connely plays his wife and it ends saying "the letters were sent, nothing is real"...

I overlay on the scene the REAL letters, they were real and the letters WERE sent....

Later the nsa declassified some. They couldn't declassify until then because there was profound insights in them.
https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents...





by Crossnerd k

This isn't my subforum, I have no power to moderate anything here

😀


by chillrob k

I discuss poker all the time on this forum. Do you? Nothing in this thread is helping anyone with poker. I'll search for other posts of yours though, since you already think I'm following you anyway.

I literally have not been allowed to discuss anything poker related on this forum for 15 years.

I would ABOLSUTELY LOVE to participate share my ideas and FINALLY get PROPER critique of them.


by d2_e4 k

I was referring very narrowly to his hallucinations in the film, much like you are hallucinating that there are other people monitoring this thread.

Yes it couldn't be MORE LITERALLY the stigmatization of mental health. And crossnerd declared she doesn't take that kind of thing lightly.


by jbouton k

I literally have not been allowed to discuss anything poker related on this forum for 15 years.

I would ABOLSUTELY LOVE to participate share my ideas and FINALLY get PROPER critique of them.

You haven't been allowed to post in the poker strategy forums? I find that to be very unlikely.


by jbouton k

Yes it couldn't be MORE LITERALLY the stigmatization of mental health. And crossnerd declared she doesn't take that kind of thing lightly.

I have personally made more posts complaining about the stigmatization of mental health issues than anyone else in the politics forum.

As well, I have been open about my 40 years of struggles with anxiety and depression.


Nash's wasn't crazy. What people don't know about the story yet, is that the IDEA he had that caused him to APPEAR so frantic and flee to Europe to hide from his government, to hide his work from the NSA was Ideal Money:



by chillrob k

You haven't been allowed to post in the poker strategy forums? I find that to be very unlikely.

Well youre convincing me that maybe youre just a little ignorant...forgive me....

This whole thread has partially been about how 2p2 BLACKSITED my key words. My entire blog of essays and any of the posts.

You aren't counting this.

ALL of my accounts were banned. ANY time someone figured out it was me touting MY ideas and MY strategies.

How are you saying if thats true, its unlikely I wasn't allowed to post?


by jbouton k

Yes it couldn't be MORE LITERALLY the stigmatization of mental health. And crossnerd declared she doesn't take that kind of thing lightly.

I don't have any power of moderation in this forum. I have privately requested that d2 take it easy in here and he has graciously complied with my request going forward, but he can post whatever he wants technically.


2p2 advertisers don't want the decentralized poker thread floating to the top everyday. They don't want poker players to learn about the idea. They don't want the players to get excited about security solutions that allow them to control their own game...

But its worse than that, capital controls, the payment processor control, create a MONOPOLISTIC environment that LOOKS like its a competitive environment.

This allows sites to increase the EFFECTIVE or HIDDEN rake, will not adjusting the % that the players can easily view.

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Consider the effects of exchange rate and currency inflation on a poker players decisions. Some people don't have to think about this. But if you were in Argentina or a nation at a time of a server devaluation or inflation, You might every much appreciate your poker bankroll as a savings device.

Then we can start to understand that the nature of our currency systems really do also player a roll in 'hidden rake'.

All of these things are naturally addressed when we apply Nash's works Ideal Money to Poker.

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And all of this is only really possible to discuss with all of you, because now you have bitcoin to use a theoretical device.



by Crossnerd k

I don't have any power of moderation in this forum. I have privately requested that d2 take it easy in here and he has graciously complied with my request going forward, but he can post whatever he wants technically.

Thank you, its ok...its just really really inappropriate...given that the moderation team really did concoct the lie that I have mental illness and my ideas are simply unworthy and not worth judging especially because of that...

but its really worse than that you see, because Nash wasn't crazy, he was right. He had something amazing to bestow on humanity and we stigmatized him for it. And on this site we banned his work. The old guard did.

We should want to restore it, because we are poker players...



by jbouton k

Nash's wasn't crazy.

Even if he was “crazy” that would be totally irrelevant to the quality of his work.

Throughout history most of the smartest people were bullied or ostracized or seen as aloof and weird for their work. It is not suprising that Mr. Nash would be viewed as crazy. Many of the greatest minds that ever lived were treated terribly.

Are there any other oppressed great minds you identify with?


by spaceman Bryce k

Even if he was “crazy” that would be totally irrelevant to the quality of his work.

Throughout history most of the smartest people were bullied or ostracized or seen as aloof and weird for their work. It is not surprising that Mr. Nash would be viewed as crazy. Many of the greatest minds that ever lived were treated terribly.

Are there any other oppressed great minds you identify with?

Yes you are pointing at a very significant nuance that will be re-visited. For now its best to understand we couldn't handle the truth he presented...

https://x.com/Soaker_Patoshi/status/1800...

^^ not working.

by spaceman Bryce k

Are there any other oppressed great minds you identify with?

There is relevance to two important people that have a similar stigmatization especially with regard to science.

But its not so relevant to what the poker players need to understand in order to open dialogue on the relevance and significance of Ideal Poker to Ideal Money.


Bluegrassplayer also nefariously guards the bitcoin thread. We have had problems extending the dialogue to multiple threads in order to get nuanced discussion on the complexity of related topics. This is a security problem site wide. Because it affects EVERYONES bankrolls since everyone is using crypto in one form or another....we are the advanced group in that regard.

We should be wanting to create a players group that is PUBLICALLY trustworthy to help people traverse the technology and also to ask about things they are unsure are scams.

But you see when phil ivey and josem are using this new technology to SCAM people and PROMOTE SCAMS we can't really be allowed to have such a group.

But whats also a bigger scale issue, bitcoin is going through a problem right now, its subject to a long run hack via the lightning implementations that are being touted. BGP is blocking me from making the players aware of this nuance and this affects billions of dollars in the players community.


Shoutout to all the paranoid schizophrenics out there reading this thread like “oh ****”

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