2p2 data breach/security exploit
Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:
Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.
I remember telling a lock poker rep to go **** himself in like 2014 and some random account popping up to tell me that i made a mistake and i told that person to suck my dick and then lock finally got exposed.
I remember telling a lock poker rep to go **** himself in like 2014 and some random account popping up to tell me that i made a mistake and i told that person to suck my dick and then lock finally got exposed.
Right. For myself I started to try and learn and use math to PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that I'm a profitable player in my field...
All I ended up proving to myself was that the games are ever so arranged PERFECTLY such that you never really can define your winrate.
When I brought this to players attention, the certain ridicule I got from certain players that were otherwise 'winning' players, was CONCERNING.
From there I convinced myself of the concept of a 'profitability standard'. Which is really a RAKE standard, but not as a % rather in regard to the EFFECTIVE (ie hidden!) rake. Players aren't OWNED profitability, but the players as customers should learn how to ask for the METRIC of it. But the community was deprived the ability to have dialogue on the subject.
Put another way, wouldn't it be nice to know, or be served not only the cost to play on a site, but an accurate representation of what your expected winrate will be, or the profitability comparison to other sites?
This is the opposite of how sites work today, they HIDE it. They hide such stats so only people like Josem get to know them, and then Josem tells the players that its because he's making the game secure.
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker by Soaker Patoshi]All over the world varieties of sites make claims to have systems very properly or even ideally devoted to the interests of the professional or recreational players of those sites and always an externally located critic can argue that the site is actually a sort of despotism.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Money by Nash]All over the world varieties of states make claims to have governments very properly or even ideally devoted to the interests of the citizens or nationals of those states and always an externally located critic can argue that the government is actually a sort of despotism.[/QUOTE]
This is the most important thread on 2p2: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/ne...
It was locked and I self-banned to hope that it stayed preserved.
This is the 2nd most important thread, which 2p2 could NOT let bounce to the top of the NVG on a daily basis: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/ne...
Its OP references virtue poker, virtue poker was a scam project endorsed by Phil Ivey nothing to do with decentralizing poker.
HOW can the games be arranged so that the players could somehow be able to compare the profitability of each site? Do we understand the question? If this was the scenario then the poker sites would be forced to compete, not to HIDE the profitability or ie effective/hidden rake...but they would be FORCED to compete to lower it.
Spoiler
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Poker sites in Competition
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker by Soaker Patoshi] In the near future there may be a smaller number of major sites used in the world and these may stand in competitive relations among themselves. There is now the “euro" sites and the old history of the UB scandal is past history now. And there COULD be introduced, for example, a similar international site for the Islamic world or for South Asia, or for South America, or here or there.
And if “rake targeting" were used as a “line" by the managers handling all of these various internationally prominentsites then there would arise interesting possibilities for comparisons between these major sites. Each of the sites managed thusly would have its officially recognized status in terms of rake as measured by the domestic index of deposits raked of the state of the managers. But also, and this is what is more significant from an internationally oriented viewpoint, the various rakes would have rates of exchange so that they could be realistically compared in terms of their actual values[/QUOTE]
Currencies in Competition
[QUOTE=Ideal money]In the near future there may be a smaller number of major currencies used in the world and these may stand in competitive relations among themselves. There is now the “euro” and the old inflationary history of the Italian lira is past history now. And there COULD be introduced, for example, a similar international currency for the Islamic world or for South Asia, or for South America, or here or there.
And if “inflation targeting” were used as a “line” by the managers handling all of these various internationally prominent currencies then there would arise interesting possibilities for comparisons between these major currencies. Each of the currencies managed thusly would have its officially recognized status in terms of inflation as measured by the domestic index of costs of the state of the managers. But also, and this is what is more significant from an internationally oriented viewpoint, the various currencies would have rates of exchange so that they could be realistically compared in terms of their actual values.[/QUOTE]
I still can't understand why you keep boasting that you stole an essay by John Nash and ran a find & replace on it to turn it into word salad, under the amazingly creative pseudonym "Poker Satoshi" with a couple of letters swapped around.
I still can't understand why you keep boasting that you stole an essay by John Nash and ran a find & replace on it to turn it into word salad, under the amazingly creative pseudonym "Poker Satoshi" with a couple of letters swapped around.
Do you understand who the "keynesians" and the "PSFTCIAFBIDOJ are?
“PSFTCIAFBIDOJ”
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[QUOTE=Ideal Poker]
The actions of the DOJ was actually multi-dimensional and consequently there are quite different varieties of persons at the present time who follow, in one way or another, some of the thinking of the DOJ. And of course SOME of its thinking was scientifically accurate and thus not disputable. For example, FT was labeled a Ponzi scheme.
The label “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ" is convenient, but to be safe we should have a defined meaning for this as a party that can be criticized and contrasted with other parties.
So let us define “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ “to be descriptive of a “school of thought" that originated at the time of Black Friday on April 15 2011. Then, more specifically, a “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ " would favor the existence of a “manipulative" state establishment of raked poker and poker skin which would continuously seek to achieve “raked" objectives with comparatively little regard for the long term reputation of the poker currency and the associated effects of that on the reputation of poker sites domestic to the state. And indeed a very famous saying of PSFTCIAFBIDOJ was “...in the long run we will all be dead...".[/QUOTE]
“Keynesians”
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker]
The thinking of J. M. Keynes was actually multi- dimensional and consequently there are quite different varieties of persons at the present time who follow, in one way or another, some of the thinking of Keynes. And of course SOME of his thinking was scientifically accurate and thus not disputable. For example, an early book written by Keynes was the mathematical text “A Treatise on Probability”.
The label “Keynesian” is convenient, but to be safe we should have a defined meaning for this as a party that can be criticized and contrasted with other parties.
So let us define “Keynesian” to be descriptive of a “school of thought” that originated at the time of the devaluations of the pound and the dollar in the early 30’s of the 20th century. Then, more specifically, a “Keynesian” would favor the existence of a “manipulative” state establishment of central bank and treasury which would continuously seek to achieve “economic welfare” objectives with comparatively little regard for the long term reputation of the national currency and the associated effects of that on the reputation of financial enterprises domestic to the state. And indeed a very famous saying of Keynes was ”...in the long run we will all be dead ...”.[/QUOTE]
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************ << ideal dash poker
Well youre convincing me that maybe youre just a little ignorant...forgive me....
This whole thread has partially been about how 2p2 BLACKSITED my key words. My entire blog of essays and any of the posts.
You aren't counting this.
ALL of my accounts were banned. ANY time someone figured out it was me touting MY ideas and MY strategies.
How are you saying if thats true, its unlikely I wasn't allowed to post?
I'm saying that you don't post normal poker related content.
Why don't you go into a strategy thread right now, and say if you think someone should call, raise, or fold. I bet you won't be censored.
I don't know how all your accounts are banned. Obviously not true as this account you are using is from 2017 and you're still using it.
I'm saying that you don't post normal poker related content.
Why don't you go into a strategy thread right now, and say if you think someone should call, raise, or fold. I bet you won't be censored.
I don't know how all your accounts are banned. Obviously not true as this account you are using is from 2017 and you're still using it.
Well of course this thread is the first time I've been allowed to be myself. So we are talking about my history, with the old guard. Apparently there is a new guard.
So you're finally being allowed to post what you want, but instead of actually letting people know what's going on, you get all cryptic and give reasons why you want to give a "zero information proof".
Nobody cares about your showing off that you know secret stuff. You're still keeping it secret, just like the people you claim to have been censoring you.
If you really wanted to help the players, you would be telling us what they need to know right now, not asking lots of weird questions and talking about how famous poker players have tried to hurt players.
If any of this is actually true, then you are doing the same thing. Actually even worse, because you tell us that there is a big problem but you won't tell us what it is.
Why don't you just spill the beans and let us know what happened?
So you're finally being allowed to post what you want, but instead of actually letting people know what's going on, you get all cryptic and give reasons why you want to give a "zero information proof".
Nobody cares about your showing off that you know secret stuff. You're still keeping it secret, just like the people you claim to have been censoring you.
If you really wanted to help the players, you would be telling us what they need to know right now, not asking lots of weird questions and talkin
This is the most sincere post I've ever seen from you.
Do you understand that my strategies have been not just banned from posting in a strategy sub, but from the players VIEW. And from their lexicon. Phrases banned, ideas banned...and this was a CONCERTED effort which included creating a rumor I have mental illness.
These were game theoretical insights drawn from John Nash's highly polished game theory
Maybe they have been, but that's in the past.
What's happening NOW is that you are being allowed to post what you want, you aren't getting your phrases banned, and you still refuse to inform anyone.
Maybe 'the old guard' was the problem in the past. But the problem now is YOU.
Maybe they have been, but that's in the past.
What's happening NOW is that you are being allowed to post what you want, you aren't getting your phrases banned, and you still refuse to inform anyone.
Maybe 'the old guard' was the problem in the past. But the problem now is YOU.
You missed the part where the ONLY REASON I'm allowed to post about this stuff and have this thread exist and not get deleted and have me perma-banned is BECAUSE I was leaked the entire history of the hostaging of the integrity of the game.
I explained, I would love nothing more than to be able to freely discuss my ideas with the community.
You would love to do it, but you won't just do it.
Because you want someone to give you a special thread on NVG instead of just telling us here.
You would love to do it, but you won't just do it.
Because you want someone to give you a special thread on NVG instead of just telling us here.
You aren't understanding. Do you understand who the keynesians are? That will help you understand who the PSFTFBICIADOJ are:
WHO did Nash call FASCISTS?
Cliffs?
The old guard of this site meant to pass the controls over to a new guard, and that new guard left the backdoor open, the mod forums, leaving me the entire history of the hijacking of the integrity of poker as well as all of the evidence that a faction of modership on 2p2 worked in concerted effort to spread the rumour that I have mental illness and that my idea need to be actively banned from players site, and that my key phrases associated to my ideas need to be banned phrases.
Now we are talking about who is supportive of responsible disclose for the players and who is against it while we allow simultaneously parse and understand overview of what was banned as for as the content and insight in my work...
And we are also understand that my work wrapped Nash's work Ideal Money such that this site was also thus actively bury and banning discussion on John Nash' Ideal Money
But he refuses to just disclose whatever he thinks the players should know.
I don't care about any of that. I just want you to tell us whatever you couldn't tell people before.
It was Ideal Poker and Ideal Money, is this what you are asking? You want to understand the ideas and insights associate with them... thats all explain on thewealthchips my blog you see. You think I can link it here? You want me to post excerpts? For 15 years or so it was all actively banned across this site.
You understand the decentralized poker thread? Do you understand why I'm not allowed to talk in it? It's because you can't have a monopoly control over an environment when there is a dialogue about decentralizing that environment. Do you understand that the decentralized poker thread CAN'T be allowed to stay continuously bumped?
Who can tell chillrob who 'the keynesians' are? and the "PSFTCIAFBIDOJ?
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker]So let us define “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ “to be descriptive of a “school of thought" that originated at the time of Black Friday on April 15 2011. Then, more specifically, a “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ " would favor the existence of a “manipulative" state establishment of raked poker and poker skin which would continuously seek to achieve “raked" objectives with comparatively little regard for the long term reputation of the poker currency and the associated effects of that on the reputation of poker sites domestic to the state. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]
So let us define “Keynesian” to be descriptive of a “school of thought” that originated at the time of the devaluations of the pound and the dollar in the early 30’s of the 20th century. Then, more specifically, a “Keynesian” would favor the existence of a “manipulative” state establishment of central bank and treasury which would continuously seek to achieve “economic welfare” objectives with comparatively little regard for the long term reputation of the national currency and the associated effects of that on the reputation of financial enterprises domestic to the state.[/QUOTE]
Hey brother I don’t know if you have ever had a panic episode but that might be what’s going on
Sometimes our brains get small colds and act a little haywire for a while. Maybe take a break from posting for a few days and see if your brain calms down. Try some seroquel too
Hey brother I don’t know if you have ever had a panic episode but that might be what’s going on
Sometimes our brains get small colds and act a little haywire for a while. Maybe take a break from posting for a few days and see if your brain calms down. Try some seroquel too
I couldn't be more chill right now, you aren't in context whatsoever, and can't possible have caught up on any of the content of this thread which involves people asserting I have mental issues which I don't. I DO however have proof that the moderates started that rumor about me and used to filter my ideas from the players view.