2/5 completely lost on OTF vs 2 Recs
This hand just happened yesterday, I sat at a 2/5 table with a lot of fish in the table.
9players table, Hero is BTN w AsKc.
One limp, Fish 1 (260€😉 with around 60vpip and 25 PFR makes it 20 in LJ, Fish 2 in HJ with really high VPIP (115€😉 calls, I make it 65 (didn't even look at their stacks.. I would have made it bigger), both call.
Flop (202€😉 7s 4c 3c, I check, Fish 1 checks, Fish 2 goes all in for 30€.
Pot will be 260€ after I call and Fish 1 has around 200, I have 2 overs and a BDFD.
Should I shove here?
I think I can post hand results since this is mostly a math question, I shoved, Fish1 folded and would have won the hand with some QT..
Fish2 won the pot with 76o.
4 Replies
You don't really have any sizing option preflop other than jamming (which is awkward given the blinds are still to act). But it's a fairly clear jam. 65 is just a pot sweetener and commits HJ with very little flexibility against LJ.
Awkward flop situation now - you're not going to fold out better, so will you get called by worse?
I will get called by some hands that I'm still ahead or even like Ax Kx with FD, I will also fold hands that could improve on later streets.
I'm still against Fish 2 which is probably around 60/40 vs me in this flop.. its an awkward spot that I should have seen coming preflop.
Hero cannot be BTN and first to act otf ...
Anyway, this is a fairly standard shove preflop, unless both you and at least one of the blinds are very deep (150bb+ minimum).
Even in this case, you should raise way bigger, like 80 if you are BTN and 100 if you are SB.
As played, flop is whatever: I guess call and shove are pretty close.
Are you sure you weren’t sb or bb? Jam pre is +EV and no tough decisions. Make the game easy when possible.
