Facing River x-raise, call or fold?

V1 limped from EP

The raise pre was just a small pot sweetener, I would just fold pre in this configuration.

As played I would fold the river easily.

and on river, correction is V1 raise to 350$ not V2- V2 already folded

it's cool it don't really matter. He's at least gotta flush or str8 imo when he raises only 1.5x.

The one thing i will say re: V1- was playing most pots, bluffing at a decent clip, more than most at table- seeing flops with a wide range of garbage

Any reads on V?

PRE - raise bigger. Making it 3.5x over two limps in a three blind set up isn't going to get it done. I'd go at least 5x, if not 6x, at these stakes.

FLOP - I probably c-bet 1/3 pot or a little less, to clean up some equity.

TURN - you probably have the best hand when action checks to you again, but I'm not liking the potential for bad rivers. I'd probably bet 2/3 pot, not less than 1/2 pot.

RIVER - other than bringing in 87, the 6 is a brick. Our hand is pretty under-repped, and looks like AK. V might have made a loose turn call with 65 that he thinks is good or is turning something into a bluff. We might have induced this action by checking back flop and taking such small sizing on turn and river.

We can't fold our 2P when we're getting almost 4:1 pot odds, so I'd flick in the call.

ETA - just read the other posts with reads and correction of raise size. With those additional pieces of info, I think it's even more of a call, even though the pot odds are reduced to ~2.7 to 1. I think based on the action and our reads we'll have the best hand here often enough.

Yea, as soon as i flicked in $35, i knew it should have been 5x- just a brain fart

My rationale on checking back flop- i felt like J95 smashes their calling range more than my Intial raising range- with a marginal made hand, felt like checking back for pot control was best course of action- have equity don't want to get blown off with a check raise

Our hand needs some protection, on this wet board. We have a range advantage, and could have some sets or top 2, whereas our opponents are mostly capped at 2P and some draws.

Our 1P isn't likely to be good past the turn, so we don't mind taking the pot down on the flop. Even if we get called, we can turn our hand into a bluff on later streets, or improve, like we did.

call, calling turn w/ 78s? I say gg.

Front door flush came in on the turn, right?

Happy checking back river then. We have position in the CO, right?

Not happy about paying off a trappy, trash-playing villain, as described. Agree with Doc on betting more pf, and firing off a 1/3 to 1/2 cbet. Probably b/f turn.

The flush did come in on the turn, but looking at the action, when V limps in pre, then checks flop, check-calls turn, and check-raises river, I wonder how many flushes V really has. I'd think a lot of his AXhh combos would raise pre, and a lot of his lower flush combos would lead turn after flop checks through, or at least lead river, not check-raise.

Hero turned a sneaky 2P, and missed value on flop and turn. I think we have to try to make some of that value up by betting a little thinner on the river.

It sucks to pay off his raise with just 2P, but I think we have to, the way this was played.

One problem is that 87 is double gutter. Does worse call on river or is it bet too thin? Do you have worse yourself on the river when you get? If not maybe it's a fold as you don't block the straight or flush.

Results?

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It's only thin because of the previous action, specifically the smallish raise pre, the check back on the flop, and the small turn bet. I don't think it's TOO thin, when V could call us off with enough worse hands.