TT66

I think you should bluff

check back - enough sdv and not far enough down in range vs villain's range to turn into a bluff imo.

I don’t think you need to bluff. I also think bluffing here is whack.

If we are going to bluff, it should have started on the turn.

Stop playing chitty hands. U are ruining the game

Looks fine as played imo. You don't want to run into KK or a back door straight/flush. Both very possible after flop action.

Deffo not bluffing this

Very interesting for me that I'm the only one who bluffs here. I mean sure we win sometimes if checked, but also you fold out a lot of stuff you are losing (KK, even some straights). You have a high flush blocker, what more do you want in order to bluff? Or is this one of the spots where people insist on going with near zero bluffs, "because villain can have stuff"?

I was thinking this. I don't play a lot of Omaha, but isn't this a terrible starting hand?

in omaha position plays alot of role, you are "ok" to occasionally play a hann on the button as in this case, but i generally wouldnt as well because it can get you in heavy problems. but button all strong players do mess around like this what ive seen

It's a very clear open. Stop posting garbage.

edit: ah it was limped, yes limp along (or raise).

What hands is BB raising Flop with that are now checking Turn? KK/33/2-pr/AA/AXs .. Why raise with wrap and then try to trap/slow play?

Plenty of Players will not 3b AA/KK from EP in games when they are going to end up multi-way 'all the time'. We really don't have much to go on with V .. 'not good' - 'OK'.

As others have said, position in PLO is wonderful, but we didn't take advantage of that on the Turn. So now that comes back to Hero's image/history. Why would Hero not bet (for protection) when the wrap comes in on the Turn? J9 and any JX 2-pr combo comes in on the River, as well as the BD Flush.

While the Q of flush is a good card for draws to come in, IMO it's just as bad by bringing in more combos that we lose to that are going to be more willing to x/c since they didn't have to put any chips in on the Turn. (QQ-Flush)

Not knowing any history between Players this does become a game of chicken on the River. Based on history can we go $200 'for value' or how would a 'polarizing' pot bet of $360 look with only $100 behind.

Middle set isn't even a 'average' winning hand here due to the BDs. PLO Players by nature don't like to fold, so it comes down to the Players involved. I can go either way here, but it's 90% dynamic related since we do have a reasonable Showdown holding here and the general idea that PLO Players need to be bonked on the head twice in order to fold. GL

Villain has mostly KK, some KTss and barely any flushes. TT is sometimes good but not very often. Just bluff with a high club, don't overthink it.

On the button for a small bet relative to stacks it's reasonable since with position it's easier to realize your equity or get away if you're beaten. Against many opponents you are mostly set mining with the pair of tens. Flopping a set with the other pair (sixes) you must play very well post flop as set over set is very common in Omaha. Note that a hand such as TT88 is much better since you have some straights to go with your set (and a set of eights is somewhat better than a set of sixes). Still I wouldn't play the latter hand up front.

Liked all of your response but this is especially spot on unless the player with AA/KK is short stacked or has absolutely premium aces/kings.

Well the pot is limped so it was not possible to 3b. Many players don't like to raise even strong holdings, that part is true.

As played: Since villain checked on the turn, we can assume that the Ac did not help him, so I will bluff on the river.
To avoid this sort of situation where hero does not know where he stands on a lot of turns/rivers, and with this low SPR, I think reraising (to 500) on the flop is the right play.

Do you need to avoid this sort of situation though? I think it's a good spot IP, horrible spot OOP. I'd always flat the flop with TT.

I think saying "bluff" is maybe what triggered everyone. Like we had a good hand and it still beats some stuff now, and I'd probably check back a lot ... but as soon as I read your reply I also think bet is probably better than check holding the Tc. We snap fold river if V bets pretty much anything, and that's far from true for our range that calls the flop raise.
Only reason not to is if V is genius enough to x/r rebluff with Ac and worse.

Then what do you do if V doesn't fold? Stacking off 10x SPR with bare middle set in a limped pot seems pretty bad.

True, many people don't understand what a bluff is and are very attached to absolute hand values. Now that should trigger them!

doesn't playing "chitty hands" make the game BETTER? If he should fold this preflop he's hurting his own EV, not the game!

How is it 10xSPR? I hero calls villain's raise the pot is 360 and the remaining stack 440 for an SPR of 1.2. IMO for hero calling is not an option, it is fold or raise.

But Professor - what is the exact reason calling is so much worse that you don't regard it even as an option?

600 = 60 x 10