Guys mucks my cards!
Quick question
In the WSOP daily deep stack on a board of Q**A*K and I am holding AK, I put out a bet on the river and guy calls… I table my hand and V turn over an A, but before he turns over the other card, the player on my right, grabs my cards, turns them over and throws them in the muck. The dealer scolds him and tells him to never touch another players cards. V says he had AQ and finally mucks it. In this situation do you also let the guy that grabbed your cards know that was not cool to grab your cards or just let the dealer take care of it?
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Other players shouldn't be touching cards, at least until the pot has been pushed. The dealer was right to tell the other player not to touch the cards again. I'm sure the scolding part was because the dealer felt some fear about it happening again.
As to your question, I generally would let the dealer take care of it. Unless the Dealer doesn't do it correctly. In this case the Dealer handled it perfectly so I would let it go. The last thing I want to do when I have just won a hand is to get riled up or in a fight with another player.
Another player is never allowed to touch your cards. He mucked them for you?! That might even be a penalty. I'd probably call the floor, dealer involvement or not.
Always protect your cards and your action. Never know if a dealer will muck by accident, misread hand, player (like this idiot) mucks it etc.
I can think of two occasions in the past 5-6 years where I saw a tourney player all in preflop and the dealer mucked his hand before the cards were even dealt. Protect your hand.
consider yourself lucky v didn't exploit that and contest the pot, was beginning to think they were working to collude together
I agree, it sounds like collusion. And I also agree with the other poster about calling the floor and I would actually go so far to request a penalty. And the other player would definitely be getting a scolding from me, as well. I don’t tolerate people messing with me at all at the table.
Always hold on to your cards until you are shipped the pot.
If someone tried that on me, his fingers would be injured.
consider yourself lucky v didn't exploit that and contest the pot, was beginning to think they were working to collude together
OP said the hand was tabled. Theee is zero chance that a properly tabled hand that is a winner would not be awarded a pot. Once the cards are tabled anything else that happens to them subsequently is irrelevant. OP sufficiently protected his hand by properly tabling his cards.
Always protect your cards and your action. Never know if a dealer will muck by accident, misread hand, player (like this idiot) mucks it etc.
I can think of two occasions in the past 5-6 years where I saw a tourney player all in preflop and the dealer mucked his hand before the cards were even dealt. Protect your hand.
He tabled his hand at showdown... what else are you supposed to do to protect your hand? Maybe smash his hand with a mallet?
If they try to pull some "his hand is mucked" nonsense you go to the cameras.
He tabled his hand at showdown... what else are you supposed to do to protect your hand? Maybe smash his hand with a mallet?
If they try to pull some "his hand is mucked" nonsense you go to the cameras.
Some people table their hand by tossing it forward out of their own reach into the center of the table. That can obviously be risky.
Some people table their hand by tossing it forward out of their own reach into the center of the table. That can obviously be risky.
How so? The rule is that if both cards are on the table face up the hand is properly tabled. Once tabled, there is absolutely nothing that can happen that changes the status of the hand, you could light the cards on fire and they still are tabled and you would win the pot if you tabled the best hand (although I’m sure you’d find yourself banned from the room for that).
How so? The rule is that if both cards are on the table face up the hand is properly tabled. Once tabled, there is absolutely nothing that can happen that changes the status of the hand, you could light the cards on fire and they still are tabled and you would win the pot if you tabled the best hand (although I’m sure you’d find yourself banned from the room for that).
Because sometimes someone tosses his hand forward like that, and at least one of the cards lands face down, or even off the table.
