5/5 TT vs 2 rec on Qh board
~$500 deep
Both opponents are unknown recreational players who play very wide preflop.
Straddle $10 and a couple of callers, Hero on BU with TT raises to $75, MP and HJ call.
Flop($250) Q♥ 9♦ 9♣
x x, Hero - ?
What is your approach here?
I think the best line is to bet small, around ~$60, and if both opponents call, shut down the action and go to showdown. If one opponent calls, I think I check the turn and evaluate the river, possibly calling if he bets.
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Would have bet smaller, more like $50. As played, $60 basically tells them you have a smaller pair. I'd go with 100 and hope they both missed. The paired board makes it more likely they missed. Turn will depend on how many call and what the card it.
The 9 pairing is not good, as you lose to a Q or 9. You wouldn't play an overpair or Q too strongly and you rarely have a 9. I agree go larger than 60, as that looks weak, fold to a raise, reevaluate if called. It is not a good situation, as they can represent trips better than you.
Would have bet smaller, more like $50. As played, $60 basically tells them you have a smaller pair. I'd go with 100 and hope they both missed. The paired board makes it more likely they missed. Turn will depend on how many call and what the card it.
If they both missed then 60 should get the job done anyhow. I suppose 100 would be more likely to get rid of the gutshots etc.
I think it's fine although I also don't hate just a simple check and give up straight away. You raised big preflop, got action that you didn't want and a flop you didn't want...not your fault but it's a very bad outcome so I'm happy just letting go.
I think your plan sounds fine. Both opponents limped. They're unlikely to have a good starting hand, but either could have connected with the Q or have 9x. Hard for anyone to have JT when we have TT, so we're not really concerned about draws getting there. I think it's fine to play pot control by checking back turn.
Normally I'd go smaller pre, but if there is a history, by all means max value.
I agree on small flop sizing, $60 is fine. You block the obvious draw (JT), as well as T9 and QT combos.
If called, X turn, get to SD.
At 100 straddles deep I would go 5x for 1 limper, 6x for 2, etc in position. 1 extra X if I was out of position. We can go a little smaller since we are 50 straddles deep though. I take it there were 3 limpers? I think 60-70 would be good.
Flop I think quarter pot or check is fine. You can use a little bit of protection. 60 or check is fine.
Would have bet smaller, more like $50. As played, $60 basically tells them you have a smaller pair. I'd go with 100 and hope they both missed. The paired board makes it more likely they missed. Turn will depend on how many call and what the card it.
I would be betting 60 with all of my range that wants to bet here, so I don't think betting 60 reveals much. I am frequently just going 1/4 pot as my only flop size multiway.
But if villains think that we are weak when we bet small, I don't think two random recreationals are super likely to try to blow us off of TT. We can probably make an exploitative fold facing a big check raise or big river bet after turn checks through.
Checking isn't bad though, worse hands are more likely to stab turn if we check flop. Betting flop and checking turn cleans up some of our equity though, since there are 3 overs to our TT, plus some cards which complete draws etc.
