Christmas in July: A5o in the BB Facing Four Limpers
Christmas in July is the annual gathering of loose passive recs trying to bink a high-hand draw for $10,000. Stack sizes range from 75 to 350, with the median around 140. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170/l...
V (107) is playing about 45 percent of his hands. He is mostly calling. He has open-raised a few times. He hasn’t yet re-raised preflop or postflop. He once called a river bet with top-pair bad-kicker (J8). He has dribbled down his second 200 dollar buy in.
Hero covers.
OTTH
V in the UTG open limps. Three callers. Hero in the BB with Ac5h checks. 5-way
Flop (8 after rake): 2c3d4s.
Hero checks. UTG calling station bets 5. Limpers fold. Hero calls.
Turn (13): 7h.
Hero checks. V Checks.
River: 2h
Hero bets 10. V reraises to 25. V has 75 behind. Hero calls.
After writing up the hand history, hero asks, for calling the river, are people on 2+2 going to give me ****?
18 Replies
This is just terrible. Checkraise the flop. This is a classic wet flop. Bet the turn. You slowplayed until you no longer had the 2nd nuts and then put in action.
Really want to raise flop, especially against a calling station.
On the river, it is extremely difficult for A5 to not be good here. Villain would have to bet small on the flop with a set or 56, and then check back the turn in position. Why would he do that?
His line looks like a deuce and I wouldn't expect this player to hero fold trips, so I think I would jam here. That said, I could easily see myself just calling in game without time to really think about it.
I think you played it too aggressively, i only bet $10+ if i have quads.
Yeah I mean the river isn't the issue. It's Christmas but you forgot to turn up to get your present.
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Call me dull but I just bet the flop to make sure Ax don't check back - you might get raised by an overpair as well if you're lucky
In a limped multi-way pot, against short stacks, I'd just lead out and go bet, bet, bet. I'm not looking to over-think things. If we're beat by 65 or 72, so be it.
$5, $10, $25 on flop turn River, eval if raised on turn or river but tending to call
I would raise the river. I can't see him checking back ott with a set or two pair.
As played and previously suggested, play it alil faster, they're not folding the flop for another 10 or 15 bucks and if they do, you weren't getting any more money from them anyway but we still need to try though.
I would raise the river. I can't see him checking back ott with a set or two pair.
As played and previously suggested, play it alil faster, they're not folding the flop for another 10 or 15 bucks and if they do, you weren't getting any more money from them anyway but we still need to try though.
Yeah this is where my head is at, but then what does he have that a loose passive leads into 4 players on the flop with. A2 or any naked 2 seems unlikely.... bottom line, it's really hard to range villain here, so I'm just defaulting that a river raise is usually very strong at these stakes, and just call.
Oh and yes, lead or c/r flop.
jam the river, not close. he checked back the turn with a set? cmon.
flop c/c is bad. what hand bets the flop and folds to a flop CR?
jam the river, not close. he checked back the turn with a set? cmon.
flop c/c is bad. what hand bets the flop and folds to a flop CR?
I'm struggling ranging him with anything tbh, which leads me to a challenge; what does he call a river re-raise jam with that we beat?
A random 2 is the only thing that it could be, yet I don't see how a loose passive leads into 4 others with a 2 on the flop?
Results:
V showed A9o.
Next time, I won't slow play a monster in a limped pot. Thanks for humiliating me once again on 2+2!
Results:
V showed A9o.
Next time, I won't slow play a monster in a limped pot. Thanks for humiliating me once again on 2+2!
Yeah this is consistent with me not being able to range him with made hand.
A9o smh. Never change low stakes...never change...
BTW at low stakes a river raise is nearly always hecka strong, but when I have seen it as a bluff, it's nearly always at very low absolute amounts like this.
Why are we slow playing flop against a station?
Something I've experimented with over the last year and found successful...if you flop a flush or straight and have any sort of player image, just lead out. Most people at 1/2 and 2/5 seem to think there's no way you're going to have something that strong and lead out.
Then if the turn is a no worries card, I'll check and frequently get someone to do the betting for me because they think they have caught me trying to bluff again.
BTW at low stakes a river raise is nearly always hecka strong, but when I have seen it as a bluff, it's nearly always at very low absolute amounts like this.
Only when it's for a lot of relative money. Small tiny bets that make no sense under $100 like this are usually bluffs.
When they start putting in piles is it rarely a bluff at low stakes.
