Former 2+2 Darling Jared Huggins Commits M*rder
Many of you will remember Jared Huggins, who was once active and somewhat beloved on the site under the username RelaxedPrecision. Countless posts were made about his exaggerated homelessness chronicles as he swindled money and stocked up on sympathy. His name might strike his chord if you ever saw the Free Hugs videos or rooted for him to win big on The Big Game.
Since then, he seemingly got his life together, settled down and started a family. Even changed his last name to Lorenzo.
Unfortunately, the 2024 update reveals his true character as a spineless, pathetic child k*ller. Jared changed his last name but could not change who he was on the inside— every parent’s worst nightmare.
He was vindictive and petty and did the unthinkable in order to inflict the most pain possible on the woman who dared leave their abusive marriage.
RIP to Ellie, who will never make it past three years old.
For a refresher on Jared, check out the Reddit recap here: https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/...
I hate to see someone who has been "down on their luck" turn out to be an actual evil piece of **** person. It radicalizes me and makes me think less of others who are in their same unfortunate situation. Chicken and egg.
RIP Ellie.
edit: btw, his big game episode is the famous one where Selbst got coolered by Prahlad (J7 v AA aipf)
Crazy. I new who he was from The Big Game, but yesterday I read a good 40 pages from his blog on here. It didn't connect to me that it was him.
I hate to see someone who has been "down on their luck" turn out to be an actual evil piece of **** person. It radicalizes me and makes me think less of others who are in their same unfortunate situation. Chicken and egg.
RIP Ellie.
edit: btw, his big game episode is the famous one where Selbst got coolered by Prahlad (J7 v AA aipf)
There are horrifying stories of inter-family violence and murder across all income brackets, especially when relationships break down or there are acrimonious custody battles, the fact this guy was homeless 10 years ago isn't representative of anything. You can find a dozen stories of upper middle class suburban dads doing similar appalling crimes that I'm guessing don't 'radicalize you' into thinking suburbanites are evil. This is the reaction of someone who is already looking for an excuse to look down on poor people - 'well that homeless guy probably deserves it, he could be a child murderer like that one poker player'
RIP to Ellie.
There are horrifying stories of inter-family violence and murder across all income brackets, especially when relationships break down or there are acrimonious custody battles, the fact this guy was homeless 10 years ago isn't representative of anything. You can find a dozen stories of upper middle class suburban dads doing similar appalling crimes that I'm guessing don't 'radicalize you' into thinking suburbanites are evil. This is the reaction of someone who is already looking for an excuse to
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationships of all sorts compared to not causing that said pain onto others. Thus moving you further away from support of what would have been friends, family, and community (jobs). Which will make you more likely to end up homless/poor.
Wow that is wild and tragic.
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationship
95% of homeless people in the usa do not remain so for very long.
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationship
What in the **** did I just read.
I hate to see someone who has been "down on their luck" turn out to be an actual evil piece of **** person. It radicalizes me and makes me think less of others who are in their same unfortunate situation. Chicken and egg.
"I hate when my insane beliefs are confirmed by one anecdote"
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationship
Some galaxy brain **** right here, boys.
Addiction and untreated mental illness are the biggest contributors to homelessness in the US. Instead of addressing the underlying issues and socio-economic conditions it's much easier to condemn the down trodden and assign them subhuman status.
Some galaxy brain **** right here, boys.
Addiction and untreated mental illness are the biggest contributors to homelessness in the US. Instead of addressing the underlying issues and socio-economic conditions it's much easier to condemn the down trodden and assign them subhuman status.
I mean this guy is clearly sub human.
But overall you're right.
I started to read the article,then a pay wall thing popped up and honestly I'm glad it did.
Truly disgusting and tragic.
Some galaxy brain **** right here, boys.
Addiction and untreated mental illness are the biggest contributors to homelessness in the US. Instead of addressing the underlying issues and socio-economic conditions it's much easier to condemn the down trodden and assign them subhuman status.
These are big contributors/indicators of to crime/violence as well. This is probably what Loctus was thinking/conflating. /derail
RIP to Elle. Awful news.
I hate to see someone who has been "down on their luck" turn out to be an actual evil piece of **** person. It radicalizes me and makes me think less of others who are in their same unfortunate situation. Chicken and egg.
RIP Ellie.
edit: btw, his big game episode is the famous one where Selbst got coolered by Prahlad (J7 v AA aipf)
Is it really a cooler when you go all in with J7 and get snapped by the best starting hand in the game? I would call that a punt, not a cooler.
Why is murder censored in the title?
Sad story all around
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationship
the ability to inflict pain and suffering on others also happens to be a very good skill for someone looking to rise up the social ranks. your theory is very bad imo because it also doesn't take into account risk factors for going homeless tend to be out of the person's control, so it doesn't really correlate as neatly to bad person as you might think. there are plenty of outsized factors like history of drug abuse in a family or prior socioeconomic class. An upper middle class person is just generally unlikely to go homeless due to the people they know, rather than because they are harder workers or anything like that.
It's kind of gross though that in a thread about a guy who hasn't been homeless in ten years apparently you use the opportunity to crap on homeless people. Maybe the better takeaway here is the prevalence of domestic abuse in our society and how hard it is for women to leave these relationships. People always talk about battered women as if they can just "leave" their abusers, but this is oftentimes what they are afraid of happening. "If I can't have you, no one will."
I honestly don't think that NVG is the right place for these discussions, because they are very icky and get at the darkest part of the human psyche. When I see this story I see a man that through his life away and cut down his own child before she could even live out her life all because his ego couldn't let him lose his wife. Three lives ruined in a senseless, cruel, disgusting act. This is why we need to support domestic abuse victims, and we need to improve mental health services in this country.
I do already believe that homeless people are on average worse human beings than middle class suburban people are, this is true.
If you put people in the west on some sort of "good - bad person spectrum" I believe that the worst 10% of all people will have an unproportional amount of homeless/poor compared to housed/middle class people in it.
The reason would be that being a bad person who inflicts pain and suffering on people around you will be more likely to cause strain on personal relationship
This is for sure true, psychopaths especially find it harder to get along in the sandbox and succeed in normal society than your avg joe and are more likely to be homeless.
Ofc high % of homeless are non-psychopathic drug addicts or mentally ill
Not really sure why people make such a big issue out of your observation. Both things can be true
Sure hope Huggins is rotting in hell somewhere. RIP to that poor child and her family.
the ability to inflict pain and suffering on others also happens to be a very good skill for someone looking to rise up the social ranks. your theory is very bad imo because it also doesn't take into account risk factors for going homeless tend to be out of the person's control, so it doesn't really correlate as neatly to bad person as you might think. there are plenty of outsized factors like history of drug abuse in a family or prior socioeconomic class. An upper middle class person is just ge
My first reply in this thread was egotistical. What my thoughts are regarding bad people and correlations regarding being one and Jared Huggins's past has no place in this thread.
I do want to point out that you are also seemingly jumping to off-topic conclusions with this post, nowhere in this news article or a couple more I've read on the case is domestic violence between the parents mentioned.
To add something positive to the thread instead of derails like I have so har: this gofund me for the family was posted by news sources:
My first reply in this thread was egotistical. What my thoughts are regarding bad people and correlations regarding being one and Jared Huggins's past has no place in this thread.
I do want to point out that you are also seemingly jumping to off-topic conclusions with this post, nowhere in this news article or a couple more I've read on the case is domestic violence between the parents mentioned.
To add something positive to the thread instead of derails like I have so har: this gofund me for the
Chrystal Obi, the girl’s mother, offered one explanation in her statement, in which she expressed anger over the death of her daughter and lambasted the court system she said allowed it to happen.
Obi said she constantly feared for Ellie’s safety with her father, but the courts “continued to grant him partial custody and access.”
It’s very clearly a case of DV and abusive relationships. Come on bro.
Guess it doesn’t fit into your conservatard narrative though.
That poor little girl, sad.
On a side note, the OP links a Reddit post that shared the story of an old prop bet for the UGL leaderboard, circa 12/2010.
Hadn’t seen that before, but wow, what an incredible steaming pile of **** Fees showed himself to be.
That didn’t even seem real.
I just deleted some posts. Please don't post your views on homelessness or anything "political" in this thread. Anything further along those lines will earn a temp-ban.
I’m always confused why people like this kill their children before commiting suicide, if you hate your life this much just kill yourself and let the kids live?
I’m always confused why people like this kill their children before commiting suicide, if you hate your life this much just kill yourself and let the kids live?
to inflict as much pain and suffering to his ex-wife obviously. also, in this case the suicide was likely not planned considering he took his own life after driving around to different cities, as opposed to immediately after killing the poor child.
what a sad story. RIP Ellie.
