Desperate to improve. Life on the line (literally).

Desperate to improve. Life on the line (literally).

Hello,

I have played online poker since 2007, however, I took 7 years off without playing for real-life priorities. I have played casually in 2022 and 2023 on and off and in the past few months of 2024 I have new found time to take poker seriously again.

I used to play 6-max cash NL25 and NL50 in the 2012-14, since then GTO etc has become a thing and post-black Friday games are a lot tougher with fewer recs.

With that said (and hopefully understanding I'm not new to poker), I am desperate to improve my game!!! I am European and have a young child and GF in the Philippines. I lost my remote working job recently and now I have two choices:

1) Go back to Europe for work and not see my child/gf again or much or often.

2) Stay in the Philippines and live off my investment yield (enough, but not comfortably enough, poverty levels by European standards) + Poker.

I feel I have to choose #2 and can only accept #1 if I can't make it work...hence I'm desperate to improve. :f_mad:

The truth is, poker is very overwhelming when looking for ways to improve because of the complexity. I made loads of custom reports in PT to try and find situations I play unprofitably, but sometimes samples of these specific spots are too small to conclude anything concrete. While my new sample is only 23k hands, I have used my reports in old databases for clues. I feel bb/100 in certain spots is only part of the story and the lines and frequencies (statistical) aspects are just as important for finding leaks.

Anyway, beyond the obvious, I don't have anything that stands out as a "big leak" (or at least not that I am aware of), but I know they exist. Either they aren't easy to find, or I lack some knowledge to know I have a certain leak. Hence why I am here posting now.

Please, if you can take the time to look at all my stats below and share your thoughts on where I can improve, I would appreciate it so much.

I try not to overvalue stats as playing exploitatively is best and it's entirely opponent-specific how I play.

I appreciate the time and effort anyone takes have a look at the stats below for feedback.

Stats below

Generic Info/Summary



^No, it's not a brag, these hands are only NL2 & NL5 warm-up hands^^



^^Yes, I need to play better in 3bet pots anylsing hands daily^^


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Turn


River


27 July 2024 at 11:12 AM
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I would stay there and do poker 6-7 hours/day at micros(nl25-nl50) until you can save up some bankroll.

I would do 7 days a week for 3 weeks with 1 week break for drinking/relaxing/family time etc.

If you open 2 sites just to have action at low peak hours and table select hard (yes, its most needed at micros because rake kills you), i mean really hard, play with fish on your right all the time.

This should amount to at least 1500e/month and up, depending on your skills and if your aproach is profesional enough.

With your side income you should make a living there and save in order to move up, which should be your main goal.

Stats look decent enough, you should print with those stats.


Do you mean should i bother to devote time and energy into this (build bankroll) or 'should I shovel my remaining funds into my bankroll immediately and start playing higher?'

If the latter, for me it would hinge on if I could maintain a winrate at the stake I'm targetting > 100k+ hands. I don't think that's too idealised of a requirement. Prove it to yourself.

That said you have a kid and incentive. and enough study time?

Evaluate your risks and map out a worst case scenario. If that doesn't sound too awful then yolo. But I would still be wary of 20k hands and seek more self-proof personally.


Play poker everyday like 10 hours a day. Make sure u got a solid rb deal and play only the best games. Study 1 hour a day something practical that you can apply in the games tomorrow. Good thing is that philippines is cheap AF.


by Ceres k

Do you mean should i bother to devote time and energy into this (build bankroll) or 'should I shovel my remaining funds into my bankroll immediately and start playing higher?'

No, I mean I want help finding my biggest leaks because I need to improve and be the best player I can possibly be, in order to make the most money possible. I feel I need help from other minds to improve some aspects of my game. Sometimes fresh eyes can see things mine can't. Be that being superior knowledge or unbiased analysis.

I will continue being smart with money and won't skip limits, but I do have side funds available to move up quicker if my confidence in my abilities justifies it.

by Ceres k

That said you have a kid and incentive. and enough study time?

Evaluate your risks and map out a worst-case scenario. If that doesn't sound too awful then yolo. But I would still be wary of 20k hands and seek more self-proof personally.

Yes I have a kid and yes I have the incentive, I have 24/7 for family and poker. Financially, I have no "worst outcome" because I have yield and an investment portfolio. The worst case is I start selling to live, but then that's also my que to return to Europe because it means I can't sustain myself on yield and poker winnings.

I am aware that the sample is very small and don't really think anything of it other than I am still capable of playing winning poker. I posted hands to put the stats in context. I'm more interested in things I am doing too often or not often enough. Although they don't tell the full story, because there are things I do against terrible players that I wouldn't do against decent players.


by BigBananas k

Play poker every day like 10 hours a day. Make sure u got a solid rb deal and play only the best games. Study 1 hour a day something practical that you can apply in the games tomorrow. Good thing is that Philippines is cheap AF.

Yes, but this doesn't help me become the best player I can be. I am willing to have a professional mindset, treating poker (study and playing) as work, but I am not willing to have it take over my entire life, because I still want time with my child.

AS I said, I also have some yield being paid every month, so anything over 48hrs per week on poker is unhealthy.


by Deliric k

I would stay there and do poker 6-7 hours/day at micros(nl25-nl50) until you can save up some bankroll.

I would do 7 days a week for 3 weeks with 1 week break for drinking/relaxing/family time etc.

If you open 2 sites just to have action at low peak hours and table select hard (yes, it's most needed at micros because rake kills you), i mean really hard, play with fish on your right all the time.

This should amount to at least 1500e/month and up, depending on your skills and if your approach is prof

You're not wrong, but I want to improve and be the strongest player I can be. Play-only mentality isn't going to cut the mustard, especially when I know I have leaks, even if I can't see them. That's the beautiful thing about talking poker with other people, they can see things you can't.

I want to be the best I can be, and I will accept whatever that reality is. Until I feel like I can't take my game any further, I can improve something.


If you're desperate to improve one of the things that should come to mind is comparing your preflop stats to solver charts. You will see they're blatantly wrong.
Not trying to knock on you, but if you need to make this work, gotta move your ass and be proactive!


by aner0 k

If you're desperate to improve one of the things that should come to mind is comparing your preflop stats to solver charts. You will see they're blatantly wrong.
Not trying to knock on you, but if you need to make this work, gotta move your ass and be proactive!

Considering, my hands are from NL2 & 5 and I'm not skipping limits, I think there are things to improve before going down the solver rabbit hole.

Considering an exploitive strategy is superior to a GTO strategy... and humans are not solvers who play perfectly in every situation.


Lol. I change my mind. U should go back home and get a job.


by BigBananas k

Lol. I change my mind. U should go back home and get a job.

Thanks for your time posting. LOL. Hopefully, your other 1,430 posts are more useful to people.


Your true mindset showed really quickly, you got some real advice and discarded it instead of looking at it with the curiosity of someone that is willing to learn. Noone will throw you fishes, you will have to learn how to fish yourself.

You will most likely fail pursuing the poker path and should return to Europe.


you also should have worn a condom


by Evoke89 k

Considering, my hands are from NL2 & 5 and I'm not skipping limits, I think there are things to improve before going down the solver rabbit hole.

Considering an exploitive strategy is superior to a GTO strategy... and humans are not solvers who play perfectly in every situation.

I don't think as of now you can explain something to me that i haven't gone through and explored years ago in poker.
The reason your preflop is bad is not that you're an exploitative savant. It's just bad.

Some of the lowest hanging fruit you can start picking is learning proper preflop. It will help you play more solidly and more importantly, you will actually be better equiped to exploit other ppl on this street, which right now you're not because you dont know what playing good preflop looks like yet.

Drop the GTO vs non GTO narratives. Its a total waste of time. Do what you gotta do to get better


by BombayBadboy k

Your true mindset showed really quickly, you got some real advice and discarded it instead of looking at it with the curiosity of someone that is willing to learn. Noone will throw you fishes, you will have to learn how to fish yourself.

You will most likely fail pursuing the poker path and should return to Europe.

This is pretty spot on.

He asks for help, but then when one of the most knowledgeable people on the forum throws him a freebie he immediately discards it saying he his own reasons lol.


by Mr Spyutastic k

This is pretty spot on.

He asks for help, but then when one of the most knowledgeable people on the forum throws him a freebie he immediately discards it saying he his own reasons lol.

It's basic logic.

Solvers are playing perfectly against perfect opponents. So is saying "all things perfect this is what you do".

With that said, the more an opponent deviates, the more you should (to exploit their deviations).

Or are you saying your opponent doesn't matter and playing like a robot is the most +EV?

Do you honestly believe SOLVER Optimal stats maximizes profit against players that over call/fold?

Now if I'm sitting at an NL200 table with a table full of educated players, yes playing closer to solver-approved is a no-brainer. But to play solver approved vs VPIP's of 30 or 40 or 50 or even 60+ and 2% or 14% 3bets and either Fold BB 95% or 20% and Folds vs CBet 10% or folds 90% etc, just makes zero sense.

Who the **** plays unexploitable poker vs players that aren't going to exploit you (and you are exploiting the crap out of)?


by Mr Spyutastic k

This is pretty spot on.

He asks for help, but then when one of the most knowledgeable people on the forum throws him a freebie he immediately discards it saying he his own reasons lol.

It's called not taking everything at face value and healthily debating.


by aner0 k

If you're desperate to improve one of the things that should come to mind is comparing your preflop stats to solver charts. You will see they're blatantly wrong.
Not trying to knock on you, but if you need to make this work, gotta move your ass and be proactive!

What are the biggest differences you see in OP's PF? I tried to interpret this myself just looking at his stats, biggest thing that jumped at me is he is not 3 betting enough. Anything else jump out at you?

(Even if OP doesn't want to learn from his mistakes, I'm game to!)

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