Hand review Request - NLH Bomb Pot Postflop all in Jam

Kind of a weak bomb pot. Standard is typically 5bb from everyone.

I wouldn't lead here, going for a CR is going to be better.

As played I mean this is a no brainer call HU. You're kind of sweating vs AA/TT or KcJc but it doesn't matter it's not like you can fold.

As said, don't lead bomb pots and def. don't lead for this amount.

You even have BDFD on the bottom so we are even doing fine vs. most KJ and flipping vs. KcJx.

Only 3 combos total of TT AA and KcJc. AXcc has you in relatively rough spot equity wise and there's quite a few of those possible, but still can't fold. 3 outs to broadway on the bottom doing a lot of work for you equity wise vs non KJ hands.

Flop lead def a blunder.

I'm no double-board bomb pot expert, but I don't see how you can fold. I'm not sure how big a blunder it is to lead the flop, but 3B'ing after we get raised definitely seems ill-advised, if we're not happy to get stacks in.

In addition to the 3 combos of AA, TT and KcJc that we might fret over, V could also be doing this with a lot of combos we're doing okay against: three combos of QQ, three combos of 33, four combos of AT, six combos of AQ, ten combos of nut club draws, and eleven combos of nut heart draws.

If he has AT, he's drawing to just two outs on the top board, plus he could go runner-runner to make the flush, if he has the Ac. If he's got QQ, he's got about 40% equity to make a boat on top, but we've got outs to improve on bottom (albeit, not many - 3 K's, 1 Q, or we go runner 2P or flush). 33 is drawing dead on top but has us drawing pretty slim on bottom.

Even if he turned over his cards and showed us AcXc, we can't fold. We flopped the nuts on one board, and have an inside draw to the nuts on the other board.

Say he's got Ac3c. He's got 38% equity on top, and 80% on bottom. AcTs, he's got 21% on top, 80% on bottom. Other than him having exactly KcJc, it's hard to find a combo where you're not in decent shape overall, and the most likely outcome is a chop. Even against KcJc, it's going to be a chop 64%.

So there's really only one combo that has us in terrible shape, versus 40 or more that we're ahead of on at least one board.

If Hero leads flop he should go bigger, I'd go pot or maybe a small overbet. I don't like xr here a lot of the time but hard to evaluate without more detailed action history.
I don't think I would want any smaller leads on these textures, and Hero can have bet-folds for the same sizing.

This is an interesting spot theorywise and I did review the odds of Hero facing strong combos on the flop. At SPR of ~11 Hero can stay fairly aggressive, we become more conservative deeper.

Another KJ hand: 7.5%
AA or TT: 1.7%
AT: 3.4%
Ac with a second club: 8.5%

How often do(es) at least 1 player match hand range aa, tt, at, ac:cc, ac3, aq: 19.6%
adding the chance of another player having KJ, there is about a 27% chance of Hero facing at least one other 'good' hand that will often be strong enough to see showdown or play for stacks

If Hero gets it all in on the flop against a set of AA or TT, he really doesn't care. Villain will have 30% equity against broadway but gutshot straightdraw and two-liner flush give Hero 15% equity on bottom board - getting it in 42.5/57.5 underdog isn't a big deal.

From a combination standpoint, AK, AQ, and AJ are some of the worst hands to play against because they will have better blockers that allow villain to overrealize equity on scary turns and river.

Ac with another club is the second-worst combination for Hero to play against after KcJc, as he has 39% total equity across both boards. But Ac with another club gets put in a lot of tough spots on turn or river, and multiway will often be behind on both boards by the turn and be forced to fold. Ac:cc is one of the best candidates for villains to fast play on flop.

How often do(es) at least 1 player match hand range aa, tt, at, ac:cc, ac3, aq, ak, aj: 27%
combined with chance of another KJ: 34.5%

Nut heart draws are a lot less threatening, since they will have a much more difficult time hanging on without improving on the turn and many are dominated by KJ. KQ and KT are much stronger. Nut heart draw: 7.5% chance, but only 1.7% chance of facing kq or kt which can play more aggressively profitably.

So roughly 2/3 of the time Hero will have the best hand on the flop by a lot and want to charge weaker hands and draws. Hero may also overrealize equity on some run-out with overbets and jam.

As played, Hero is obviously calling.

Standard no, would need a lot more detail on the flop action to reach that conclusion. But at lower SPRs its going to be ok to get it in on the flop most of the time. And in multi-way situations, especially deeper stacked, taking an aggressive line will sometimes fold out better made hands, mostly Ace with better kicker.

Update

Hero calls, all in.

Villan turns over A♣ T♥, 2 pair on the bottom board, backdoor flush draw up top.

Runout on top board comes 3♣ J♣, giving Villan Nut flush. Hero does not improve on bottom board. 😡

Really appreciate the feedback from everyone. I feel that bomb pots are probably my weakest area, and the games where I play, they tend to play incredibly big and consequential.

His flop raise is really dumb. His hand is like the exact hand you want 3 way action with.

Hero got in with ~49.3% equity total equity on the flop.

So...you made the right call, once he jams. You were about 50-50 against his exact hand, and probably pretty close to that against his entire range. Hopefully it should be obvious that 3B'ing the flop was a mistake.

Then again, it would have been interesting to see how the turn would have played out on different run-outs. It would be a shame if we spiked a Q on bottom, and the top wasn't another club, and he somehow got away from his hand.

I would look at this the same way we look at getting stacks in pre with AK vs QQ. It's a flip. We'll win half the time. If we don't want to flip for stacks, let's not jam.