Bottom set facing a raise all in
5/10
Hero: $1400
Hero opens CO with 7s7h8sTh to $35
Button calls. SB calls. BB 3b! $175 with $800 dollars behind.
Hero calls, BU calls, SB calls.
Flop ($700). :
KdQd7s.
SB x. BB x. Hero bets 1/3 $220.
BU (who covers us): Pots $1300.
Hero???
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At this spr I would pot flop. As played stacking off.
What is worst hand villain is repotting? I think we are lucky to be a 60% favorite. Worst case we’re dead.
What is worst hand villain is repotting? I think we are lucky to be a 60% favorite. Worst case we’re dead.
if this has you worried, why did you play the hand to begin with?
Were you only happy with 722 or 965 as a flop?
4 ways your flush draws are more often than not trouble, and flopping top set is almost impossible.
If this was the dynamic in the game, i would definitely trap with AA or KK from the Button, knowing that BB can reraise and CO could flat with two players left to act.
I think once you play this hand and BB 3bets, you either 4 bet or let it go. Or be prepared to stack off if you hit flop, but you wouldn't pe posting if you are unhappy to stack off with bottom set - which is what 77 can hope to achieve.
This is not how poker works or ranges work especially multiway at all. "Why play this hand and when you hit and bet a villain takes the line that is the most nutty and you have to fold?"
I don't mind 4-betting this pre though (to isolate and dead money, this hand works better HU) but calling is still is still more EV+ than folding. I'm checking this flop because of this scenario. I don't think you're in a great shape against anyone's shipping range here :P
As played fold. Button is shipping into 3 players. Button's range has you crushed.
Clear fold. Preflop seems fine.
We're not just set mining PF .. but here we are left with 'just' a set in PLO on a Board that can beat us via flush or wrap. It's probably a flip against holding(s) that cover both of those 5-card scenarios. Yes, we have the ever present PLO Pot Odds so it comes down to our willingness to flip for 140bb .. which is pretty common in the PLO streets.
B double flats PF so KKxx is fairly unlikely, QQxx a bit more perhaps depending on game dynamics. So B is unlikely to have us 'beat' right now based on total combos, but should have lots of holdings that warrant putting chips into the middle .. and with little regard for what SB/BB are going to do. Assuming SB/BB have folded and it's back on Hero ..
I'm not sure I bet at all here on Flop without first knowing I'm committed to the pot. A small bet just bloats the pot and opens the door up to get blasted into like this. Depending on Table/Player dynamics (and our commitment to our stack) I do like a larger bet over a small one. Hero opened and flatted, so more QQxx and wrap combos that want to see a Flop rather than commit PF. We don't block the flush and can't improve without possibly improving another Player.
AP can I fold? Yes .. I can .. in my normal game .. based on how I manage my bankroll. Is it the 'right' thing to do in a pure PLO vacuum? Probably not .. GL
Like, once we bet flop we can’t fold?
Think I prefer checking flop.
Vs button stab can be hard not to ship. Button is going to have a bunch of KK/QQ though. Maybe can get away sometimes from check/pot from btn.
Tbh our equity vs buttons gii is probably dust.
Button is ripping into 3 players, one of whom 3b pre oop, and one who bet the flop.
Guess this is a fold then?
Your bet sizing on the flop is whack.
if this has you worried, why did you play the hand to begin with?
Were you only happy with 722 or 965 as a flop?
4 ways your flush draws are more often than not trouble, and flopping top set is almost impossible.
If this was the dynamic in the game, i would definitely trap with AA or KK from the Button, knowing that BB can reraise and CO could flat with two players left to act.
I think once you play this hand and BB 3bets, you either 4 bet or let it go. Or be prepared to stack off if you hit flop,
Every aspect of this post is complete nonsense.
Like, once we bet flop we can’t fold?
Think I prefer checking flop.
Vs button stab can be hard not to ship. Button is going to have a bunch of KK/QQ though. Maybe can get away sometimes from check/pot from btn.
Tbh our equity vs buttons gii is probably dust.
Button is ripping into 3 players, one of whom 3b pre oop, and one who bet the flop.
Guess this is a fold then?
Your bet sizing on the flop is whack.
I agree with this. Would start with a check and decide vs button. Fine to just c/c and play a turn.
I think on this texture we want to bet large given the amount of bad turns - we're about 50% to a jamming range so it's a clear call off.
i am a little fuzzy on this scenario - what's the ruling when we make it to showdown here and it turns out there are two 7♠ in this deck? do whatever makes sense based on that.
Any reads on the btn? Is it possible your small bet induced KQ + minimal backup to ship it e.g. KQ + gutshot? I can think of players I turbo muck this against and others I snap call.
