Detroit

Unfortunately, I usually play 1/2, 1/3....when business is good, I'll play 2/5. With the rake & promotional drops what they are, a player should really be at 2/5 for a minimum.

Hey all:

I was at Motorcity the other night. It was busy, but not packed.

I started off rough, but wound up having a good session. In the five hours that I played, I only had some super strong hands a few times. HOWEVER, when it really counted, I had it. That night's win made up for many losing sessions.

Most of the same people were there, but there were some new players AND some semi-regulars who were on tilt and simply giving their money away, and I got a taste of it.

While I was there, some chips & sandwich bits were brought in. The sub bits are actually not too bad. When the food was brought in, it was almost like a feeding frenzy. Lots of hungry players.

One very important and interesting thing that was told to me by a dealer was that at the beginning of the month, there was some type of special promotion where flushes & above were paid $200 as a "high hand" bonus. This went on for 2 days...some players were at the table for 30 hours straight and walked away with $2K & 3K (as they hit many high hands). I've only heard of such things going on when a promotion is ending and collected money has to be paid out.

I wish I knew of that ahead of time. Has anybody else ever heard of such a thing?

Are there any charity rooms with decent structures? I think I remember the room in Waterford being okay, but others I’ve been to go 100/200, 200/400, 400/800. With bigger starting stacks this might be okay, but a lot of places start with 20k or 25k.

Philip Wiszowaty
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Poor one out for Motor City Casino Poker Room. It looks like August 5th will be its last day rumor has it. I never thought Greektown would outlast Motor City. All the signs were there though, if you get kicked out of your dedicated space and onto the floor your odds are getting shutdown.

It was the place to play during mid/late 2000s

They are all about the same. You’re going to start with a ton of chips and play about two hours of pointless poker. Around that time the blinds will really ramp up and everyone at the final table will have about 5bb.

Story confirmed https://www.playmichigan.com/motorcity-c...

also I guess Motor City outlived Greektown. Apparently Greektown room closed up in June, pretty bad that no one really had a funeral for the room and most just assume it was empty. MGM is the winner.

WOW!

I didn't think it would happen...but looks like it is. MotorCity is shutting down poker.

Now Detroit will only have MGM. Years ago, when MGM's poker room was on the 2nd floor, they were last place in the market. Now? They are the #1 and sole survivor.

Of course, poker in general is not as popular as it once was.

In the Detroit area, we've still got plenty of charity rooms. We've also got Windsor (which looks to be picking up). A bit further out, Toledo is still there. I've played in Toledo a few times, and they had a good room (haven't been there lately).

As for Motorcity, I'll got at least 1 time before they close, maybe 2? I'll also be sure to use up my comps. Once that is done, I doubt I'll be going back to that casino.

I feell bad for the dealers. Some of them were pretty good & nice.

Wow.

How are they going to distribute the promotions money?

No official word on 'how' yet .. but I see more PLO games there now trying to get that BBJ before it gets chopped up otherwise. GL

Look at your Bravo, looks like they're giving away that money now. All tables are filled and a 3 hour wait to get on.

Wow, 11 tables of 1/2 and over 200 ppl on the wait list. Bravo doesn't say how they're doing it but it must be insane. Couldn't they have phased in the giveaway?

[QUOTE=Man of Means;58665161]Wow, 11 tables of 1/2 and over 200 ppl on the wait list. Bravo doesn't say how they're doing it but it must be insane. Couldn't they have phased in the giveaway?[/QUOTE

Not really. They have a closing date time and the money must be gone.

Twitter post this morning indicates that only 35k of the 125 they started with yesterday morning is left. That's a lot of AAAxx going out the door!

It also means that the money wont make it through today and the poker room will probably close before Monday at 6am due to no one just wanting to hang out 'one last time' without the incentive of promo funds. GL

Hey all:

I went to MGM the other night. It is the only casino in Detroit that has a poker room at this point.

In the evening, the wait list for 1/3 was well over 50 people. I called in ahead, planning to get there about 80 minutes after the call. I took care of some small tasks and then stopped in at Bucharest Grill to get a carryout, as MGM can't really handle their food operations. Bucharest Grill was delicious and hit the spot.

When I got to MGM, I still had at least a 30 minute wait. This was around 10 PM, which is probably their peak time?

Every table was full. They have a LOT of people. I recognized many people that would play at Greektown and Motorcity.

My table had moderate action. I was up & down. I eventually walked away about $65 to the plus. Not a great night, but a win is a win.

One of the shocking things is the rake. I was in a small pot of $42 and the dealer took out $7! The pot was raised to $7/pre-flop with 3 callers and small blind folded ($22). I then bet $20 on the flop and everybody folded. I called that out and asked for a explanation of that level of rake. They take 10% of the pot, even $1 over, qualifies for the next highest rake. Thus, $41 is a $5 rake. There is also a $2 promotional drop once the pot hits $20. So I had $27 of my own money in the pot ($25 of other player's money, house takes $7 of the $25 win!).

There were a few players with micro-stacks ($50 or less). There were also a couple of players with small stacks of about $100.

So I would argue that unless you simply want to get out of the house and gamble recreationally, a lot of the 1/3 games are simply NOT playable for someone that wants to make money over the long term.

That might be different when the promotions are going on. I think on Thursdays, $500 is given away every 20 minutes to high hands (no rollovers). THAT might be playable because of the large promotion.

The room was packed, the cocktail waitress was very scarce. Their was 1 masseuse. Of course, no food or snacks. I didn't even know how long the wait was in the food court. So services stink at MGM.

Several of the players said that they heard rumors that rake would go up to $10 per pot ($8/rake, $2 promotion).

So I think that in the future, I will probably only play on big promotion days OR play $2/$5. The rake is simply too high.

It's true unfortunately that a $41 pot gets raked for $5+2 at MGM but your uncalled $20 bet should not count as part of the pot.

Not sure what happened in the hand there but a $7 raise with 3 callers + $1 SB = $29, which should be raked for $3+2.

Can you walk to LCA from MGM? Seeing a concert in a couple weeks and want to be sure.

I've only played here on one Detroit trip. But I was shocked at how sloppy the dealers were with rake. I saw several pots double raked. This would usually happen bc some dealers weren't dropping the rake every hand and wound drop it every few hahds. Not sure if it was intentional or not but it was shady as hell.

I mis-typed, or I was unclear....

There were 3 people in to see the flop. The raiser and 2 callers. The small blind folded and their $1 went in, so there was a total of $22 pre-flop, $7 of which was mine.

Flop comes. I bet out $20, everyone folds, and the $7 gets taken out for rake and promotion just before the dealer pushed the chips to me. I was furious over this.

This dealer had made NUMEROUS mistakes previously in that 30 minute session. She dealt 3 cards to several players a few times...she was thinking it was PLO? This twice resulted in a mis-deal, but 1 time it was caught before anybody looked at any of the dealt cards.

She also gave back $7 in change to a small blind ($1) who folded and had a $5 chip out. They should have got $4 back, not $7. I pointed this out....she said I was wrong, but several other players backed me and the small blind put back the right amount of $.

Mistakes happen, but for a dealer to be making this level of mistakes in one 30 minute session is not acceptable.

Hey all:

I called over to MGM and spoke to one of the floor managers.

He confirmed the rake structure...BUT...he also confirmed that an unanswered bet SHOULD NOT be raked.

I wonder how many hundreds of $$$ that dealer took off the tables that night? If she is doing this all the time OR very frequently, how much of player's money is she taking in a week? In a month? In a year?

I am not in many hands so I pay almost no attention to rake being taken out of hands that I am not in.

I also don't typically pay too much attention to rake, but on this one example hand, I was in a heightened state of attention as the dealer had made numerous errors. I also thought the money I was getting back was short.

It is certainly possible to do that. It is maybe 1/2 mile or so?

HOWEVER, if the concert is at night, I would be VERY carefully about walking that distance in that area! I would also be careful in the day/afternoon!

I've made the walk from MGM to Comerica many times without a hint of issue. I was basically curious if the trip to LCA is largely different. I think our plans will depend on what my friends want to do.

Outside of people occasionally joking around with me (Wanna buy a microwave? It costs $2 to occupy this space, etc...) I've always had a good time walking around Detroit.

Dude, c'mon you're fine. It's all the same vicinity, which is totally safe.

Source: Lived in the middle of this for the past 5 years. Walk all the time to the casino, w/ plenty of cash.