NL25 - AA versus 4bet preflop 200bb deep
What would you do here versus 24/4 guy, hands 45 so no real sample size.
1) was my 3bet preflop too small?
2) Should I just flat his 4bet or mini 5 bet or jam?
In 100bb I would just jam but here I got confused cause I still got so much left behind.
SB: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $34.33 (137.3 bb)
UTG+2: $26.02 (104.1 bb)
MP1: $48.84 (195.4 bb)
MP2: $48.58 (194.3 bb)
MP3: $13.41 (53.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $61.18 (244.7 bb)
BTN: $25.34 (101.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A
A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP1 raises to $10.75, MP3 folds, Hero?
3bet seems ok to me
I voted jam before I saw how deep you were. idk which is better probably a smaller 5bet but i'd never flat.
I don't know the skill level @ NL25.
Can they fold KK pre 200bb deep?
Do they over-value overpairs postflop?
Since he made it so small, I would just go ahead and 4-bet to $25, setting up a nice SPR of 0.5.
They probably have the same hand anyway. Call.
I don't know the skill level @ NL25.
Can they fold KK pre 200bb deep?
Do they over-value overpairs postflop?
Since he made it so small, I would just go ahead and 4-bet to $25, setting up a nice SPR of 0.5.
Villain actually made the 4bet. He first opened 4bb, MP3 calls 4bb, I Squeeze to 16bb, Villain then 4bets to 40bb. So you would 5bet rather than call or go all in?
I think I should have gone all in or 5bet vs his 4bet because I ´had "a feeling" he had KK based on his opening of 4bb preflop ja his pfr stat was then only 4% (ok bad sample size). But I elected to just call his 4bet thinking that he could fold his KK vs 5bet jam 200bb deep but I think almost no one could fold KK.
This was the flop and he bet Cbet small. Would you? (THE POLL WAS ONLY FOR PREFLOP)
A) Call
B) Reraise
C) Jam
SB: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $34.33 (137.3 bb)
UTG+2: $26.02 (104.1 bb)
MP1: $48.84 (195.4 bb)
MP2: $48.58 (194.3 bb)
MP3: $13.41 (53.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $61.18 (244.7 bb)
BTN: $25.34 (101.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A
A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP1 raises to $10.75, MP3 folds, Hero calls $6.75
Flop: ($22.85) T
A
8
(2 players)
MP1 bets $5.45, Hero?
LOL I actually didnt like the ace on the flop unless villain had TT which is unlikely
Jamming looks more like AK than AA
Mini-5b to 25 is fine, though, this deep. 4b/folding is pretty rare in the micros to those.
On second thought, isn't 4b/folding just rare altogether in the micros because 4b'ing light is so rare?
I jam. Screw it.
If I could play the hand again I would probably jam and try to represent an AK which is scared to see a flop. I guess villain would fold his QQ vs jam but I doubt villain could never find a fold with KK (I know I couldnt unless I had a decent sample size and I know villain would be a nit). But yeah maybe I am a bit results oriented.
I reraised villains CBET on the flop because I didnt want to see any diamonds etc. Villain folded pretty quickly. Would someone have just called his small flop CBET?
SB: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $34.33 (137.3 bb)
UTG+2: $26.02 (104.1 bb)
MP1: $48.84 (195.4 bb)
MP2: $48.58 (194.3 bb)
MP3: $13.41 (53.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $61.18 (244.7 bb)
BTN: $25.34 (101.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A
A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP1 raises to $10.75, MP3 folds, Hero calls $6.75
Flop: ($22.85) T
A
8
(2 players)
MP1 bets $5.45, Hero raises to $11.40, MP1 folds
Results: $33.75 pot ($1.52 rake)
Final Board: T
A
8
MP1 mucked and lost (-$16.20 net)
Hero mucked A
A
and won $32.23 ($16.03 net)
If I could play the hand again I would probably jam and try to represent an AK which is scared to see a flop. I guess villain would fold his QQ vs jam but I doubt villain could never find a fold with KK (I know I couldnt unless I had a decent sample size and I know villain would be a nit). But yeah maybe I am a bit results oriented.
I reraised villains CBET on the flop because I didnt want to see any diamonds etc. Villain folded pretty quickly. Would someone have just called his small flop CBET?
4bet-folding just doesn't happen much at 25NL
Sorry I wasn't clear. I think shoving looks more like a 99/TT/AK/AQs to people than a smaller 5-bet. You're getting called almost every 5bet but if this guy is good enough to 4b/f to a shove, there isn't a much wider range that he's calling 15 bbs. A lot of these people have their minds made up to not fold pre when they 4b.
24/4 even on small sample seem like type of player who would never 4bet bluff 200bb deep, so you want to 5bet and you want to pick sizing that won't get hero folds but still you don't want to give him too good of a odds to set mind.
Slightly bigger than min 5bet imo.
24/4 even on small sample seem like type of player who would never 4bet bluff 200bb deep, so you want to 5bet and you want to pick sizing that won't get hero folds but still you don't want to give him too good of a odds to set mind.
Slightly bigger than min 5bet imo.
I don't think you're wrong, but I'll push back a bit.
Villain probably likes their hand more now than they ever will for the remainder of the hand.
Wow! An opponent with a PFR of 4% opened 4bb from MP and a 43bb 4-bet!
It looks like he's trying to get his entire stack in as quickly as possible preflop with his very narrow range.
I would help him out and choose to jam. 😀
If we assume skill edge then call range. If we think that villain has edge jam with AA/ AKs
is this an ante game?
Wow! An opponent with a PFR of 4% opened 4bb from MP and a 43bb 4-bet!
It looks like he's trying to get his entire stack in as quickly as possible preflop with his very narrow range.
I would help him out and choose to jam. 😀
I voted small raise but didnt notice villains PFR. In this exact situation im jamming.
Wow! An opponent with a PFR of 4% opened 4bb from MP and a 43bb 4-bet!
It looks like he's trying to get his entire stack in as quickly as possible preflop with his very narrow range.
I would help him out and choose to jam. 😀
I voted Call, but after syless pointed out that its 43bb lol, I'm also jam. (for 50nl player this 4B looks normal)
I shove. If V can make the hero fold now he will be able to make it when we try to get the money in after the flop. Yes you are representing a monster but so are they.