Project 2025
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Late last night, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) beamed anti-Trump/Vance messages onto the side of the 98-story skyscraper—a day before the Democratic Convention kicked off in Chicago.
The content of the messages projected onto the tower were varied. One branded the building as "Project 2025 HQ." Project 2025 has been billed as a "wish list" policy that the next Republican president would fulfill, though Trump has distanced himself from the conservative blueprint.
Another message read "Trump-Vance Weird as Hell.
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Is this legal??
The only think sinking Trump is Trump himself
Conspiracy theorists tends to point fingers at vague concepts and underhanded efforts clouded in secrecy, so Dunyain's comment make little sense.
Project2025 is very much public. It comes with a website, publications, membership, training seminars, a 1000-page policy outline, media contacts and professional consultants providing pre-written executive orders, bill drafts and policy proposals.
President of the Heritage Foundation Kevin Roberts has stated in an NYT interview that the goal of Project2025 and the foundation is to "install Trumpism". Nor is the Heritage Foundation obscure, it is well known and powerful think-tank with a 100+ million dollar budget that has had a hand on the steering wheel of US conservative policy since the 80s.
Project2025 also pretty much perfectly aligns with the nonsense we have spouted from Maga and Trumpism over the last few years. To pretend it is some kind of weird conservative outlier that tries to bog down Trump is nonsense. It's Trumpism put to paper by people with a good notion of how government works. Sure, it makes for a pretty insane read, but that's because Trumpism is insane.
If anything Dunyain should be out there asking the people behind Project2025 for their receipts, because their policy documents and statements are pretty much filled to the brim with the most vague and inane reasoning you can muster as rationale for a long series of enormous government intervention. I'm not kidding, it's literally stuff like "zomg, woke mind virus, therefore this department / agency must go" with slightly better rhetoric.
Conspiracy theorists tends to point fingers at vague concepts and underhanded efforts clouded in secrecy, so Dunyain's comment make little sense.
Project2025 is very much public. It comes with a website, publications, membership, training seminars, a 1000-page policy outline, media contacts and professional consultants providing pre-written executive orders, bill drafts and policy proposals.
President of the Heritage Foundation Kevin Roberts has stated in an NYT interview that the goal of Projec
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Ok. So correct me if I am wrong, but it appears this is actually what has happened.
So what happened is that some right wing intellectuals (as much as any exist) got together and wrote to a 900 page conservative manifesto. Some of them worked for the Trump administration from 2016-2020, but that is really all the connection there is to Trump. As an aside, many of the platform points are not even something Trump endorses or agrees with.
The Democrats and MSM cynically tie this manifesto to Tru
What actually happened here is quite obvious.
A group of people, a significant percentage of whom worked in the Trump administration, got together and tried to draft a blueprint for the next Republican administration, which they hoped would be a Trump administration. Rather than a Bannon whisper campaign, they opted for a more organized, more systematic series of written proposals.
Trump didn't pay much attention to the details because policy isn't particularly interesting to him, and he assumed that no one would care. But now that it is generating blowback, he is trying to distance himself.
What actually happened here is quite obvious.
A group of people, a significant percentage of whom worked in the Trump administration, got together and tried to draft a blueprint for the next Republican administration, which they hoped would be a Trump administration. Rather than a Bannon whisper campaign, they opted for a more organized, more systematic series of written proposals.
Trump didn't pay much attention to the details because policy isn't particularly interesting to him, and
I think this assumption is more or less correct. I dont think anyone actually cares. This is just a cynical political attack. Which is fine. I am just pointing out the obvious.
What actually happened here is quite obvious.
A group of people, a significant percentage of whom worked in the Trump administration, got together and tried to draft a blueprint for the next Republican administration, which they hoped would be a Trump administration. Rather than a Bannon whisper campaign, they opted for a more organized, more systematic series of written proposals.
Trump didn't pay much attention to the details because policy isn't particularly interesting to him, and he assum
Literally exactly this
I think this assumption is more or less correct. I dont think anyone actually cares. This is just a cynical political attack. Which is fine. I am just pointing out the obvious.
You keep saying that. Multiple posters have pointed out why you're wrong and it's not just a cynical political attack and why people care, or should care. You have just ignored all those posts, so it's quite clear that you have nothing of value to add here.
You keep saying that. Multiple posters have pointed out why you're wrong and it's not just a cynical political attack and why people care, or should care. You have just ignored all those posts, so it's quite clear that you have nothing of value to add here.
You think someone on the fence whether to vote for Trump or not is going to be pushed off the fence because the Heritage Foundation wants to ban porn?
If anything it might go the opposite way. I dont think it would actually happen, but I would be very persuaded to vote for a candidate who had a comprehensive blueprint to remove institutionalized discrimination in govt (what we call DEI) and support free market policies.
Instead, Trump is talking about tariffs, which seem just as bad an idea as Harris's price control rhetoric.
I think this assumption is more or less correct. I dont think anyone actually cares. This is just a cynical political attack. Which is fine. I am just pointing out the obvious.
I care in the following sense.
Even if Project 2025 does not reflect Trump's current thinking (and it probably doesn't, as Trump is a mostly empty vessel when it comes to policy), it almost certainly reflects the policy preferences of a large number of people who would be in a position to influence Trump if he won a second term.
That is reason for concern because Trump has proven to be highly impressionable.
You think someone on the fence whether to vote for Trump or not is going to be pushed off the fence because the Heritage Foundation wants to ban porn?
If anything it might go the opposite way. I dont think it would actually happen, but I would be very persuaded to vote for a candidate who had a comprehensive blueprint to remove institutionalized discrimination in govt (what we call DEI) and support free market policies.
Instead, Trump is talking about tariffs, which seem just as bad an idea as H
If you want to argue whether Project 2025 will sway on the fence voters or not, fine. But that's not what you've been arguing, so don't ****ing pretend it is.
Project 2025 is like the CHAZ of the right wingers.
Sure, maybe it was cooked up by people with much higher intellect, but it's no less delusional to think it'll catch on at scale. It's all fun to think about until you realize that you're reliant on the rest of society to carry your water for you.
Go home, SRM, you're drunk.
Leave this boogeyman in the closet where it belongs.
Project 2025 is like the CHAZ of the right wingers.
Sure, maybe it was cooked up by people with much higher intellect, but it's no less delusional to think it'll catch on at scale. It's all fun to think about until you realize that you're reliant on the rest of society to carry your water for you.
Go home, SRM, you're drunk.
Leave this boogeyman in the closet where it belongs.
Difference being, the Project 2025 agenda is pretty much the republican agenda. CHAZ was a bunch of hippies being hippies. What exactly was the 3 comma driving force behind CHAZ?
Project 2025 requires sending out e-mails to donors soliciting applications to be one of the "tens of thousands of new appointees" that would be required to make this happen.
Crowdsourcing your political coup is not going to work, boys.
Project 2025 requires sending out e-mails to donors soliciting applications to be one of the "tens of thousands of new appointees" that would be required to make this happen.
Crowdsourcing your political coup is not going to work, boys.
Lol you. You think they can't find people to fill jobs, qualified or otherwise? Hey, you, street bum over there, want 50k a year to own the libs? Filled your job for you.
Also, you didn't answer my previous question. Comparing P25 with CHAZ is ****ing lol.
So on the side of ‘this is a left wing boogeyman’ we have:
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On the side of ‘this is right wing policy and it’s great’ we have:
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I don't even know why the other right wingers are trying to distance themselves from it. Guess it's embarrassing to see the dogshit policies they support reduced to writing? Much easier to forget what a horrible person you are when you're just stanning for an orange carnival barker with some vague promises than when it's all there in black and white. Whatever else you say about Luciom, at least he proudly owns his cartoon villainy.
I really don't blame you guys. We had a nice little laugh at CHAZ being the future of leftism, too.
Life is short. Have fun. But if Project 2025 elevates your heartrate or keeps you up at night, you're doing it wrong.
They're going to remove all government regulation on fossil fuels/pollution, abolish medicare and medicaid, ban abortion, use the FTC to implement Theocracy, blah blah blah.
The only correct response to this is yeahsureokay.gif.
I don't even know why the other right wingers are trying to distance themselves from it. Guess it's embarrassing to see the dogshit policies they support reduced to writing? Much easier to forget what a horrible person you are when you're just stanning for an orange carnival barker with some vague promises than when it's all there in black and white. Whatever else you say about Luciom, at least he proudly owns his cartoon villainy.
I literally had never even heard of it until the left started using it as a dog whistle in the last couple weeks.
For all I know, if I looked into it I might approve of many of the policies.
I really don't blame you guys. We had a nice little laugh at CHAZ being the future of leftism, too.
Life is short. Have fun. But if Project 2025 elevates your heartrate or keeps you up at night, you're doing it wrong.
They're going to remove all government regulation on fossil fuels/pollution, abolish medicare and medicaid, ban abortion, use the FTC to implement Theocracy, blah blah blah.
The only correct response to this is yeahsureokay.gif.
Making a real intellectual effort to understand what the issues are, I see. Why don't you go play with baby Jesus and let the adults talk now?
Fair enough. See you boys in 2025.
I literally had never even heard of it until the left started using it as a dog whistle in the last couple weeks.
For all I know, if I looked into it I might approve of many of the policies.
"Dog whistle" doesn't mean what you think it means, Tweedledumb. The whole point of a dog whistle is that it's a coded message for those who get it. You know, like only dogs can hear a dog whistle because the human ear is not responsive to that frequency. "Project 2025 is terrible" is not very coded now, is it?
You and Tweedledumber are just hand waving (yes, there is only one "i" in that word) away the very real issues posters are raising ITT under some flimsy pretexts like "it has nothing to do with Trump", "I haven't heard of it", or "It's a right wing pipe dream", without actually acknowledging or responding to the multitude of people explaining why you're wrong.
