$250 daily turn spot

Middle Aged White Guy.

Stacks of villains definitely matter.

Agreed that we just have to call here, not much else we can do. Too much hand to fold unless you have really specific reads on her leads like this, and raising pretty much commits us to the hand while mostly folding out worse hands.

Villains both cover

Yep, just call and re evaluate on the river. A rec could have something weird like 56 that decided to slowplay on the flop, but she could also have a worse K, so I would call most rivers.

If the river is gross and she snap bets again, then I fold. Even most aggros won't bet 1 pair with 4 to a straight.

Because BB checked the turn I think they don't have two pair or better though because its a K BB may be planning a c/r jam. But the Lady's bet is the perfect size for a river jam. And we would have to call the river jam sometimes if its a non-club 2 or >= T. There are a lot of draws out there especially for a limped hand preflop.

I guess I'm going to call the turn bet and then have to think about calling the river bet. Because of how you describe her I can't fold to the turn bet. The reason why I sometimes fold here is that we have AK/KQ/AA/KK a lot here. So the 17k turn bet looks very strong. There are some draws where the Lady might make a blocking sized bet. And other draws where she would just check/call. The other problem with the hand is that BB can have a draw as well.

I jammed which I'm pretty unhappy with in hindsight. My thinking was BB is going to play pretty faceup and lead turn with his strong hands, so we're almost never beat by him. I thought the lady is going to show up with a lot of combo draws or pair + SD or pair + FD and it's going to be difficult to call down across most rivers. Unfortunately, she had 89cc in this spot and we get it in drawing dead.

If we are going to fold to most river cards and/or bets, isn't this a fold then? Even if you improve to trip K's, I don't see how you can call another bet after she's lead out into 2 opponents with a strong bet, what are we beating? And are we just calling hoping BB doesn't shove over top and she re shoves or calls?

It's most likely +EV to call this obviously and reevaluate on river, folding to most bets, but if that's the case then I think an argument can be made a fold.