2024 ELECTION THREAD

Kernen is unwatchable. I have cnbc on all day but I never turn it on until his segment is done. He can't talk about anything other than maga politics.

Why?

You also realize this will spill over to all people after a few years, right?

The second part is speculation at best and bullshit at worst.

Happened for income tax

I never really thought of property tax as being sort of a wealth tax, but I guess it is. Nobody seems to be fundamentally opposed to it, though.

I mean, if Joe the Plumber has to pay 25% of everything over $100 million, why would he ever work to become a hundred-millionaire?

A few?

A decade or two. The Overton window has shifted. The government (either party), will take whatever they can get.

someone show the magards the tax rates when things "were great"

Somebody fetch some fainting couches for all the Fox viewers who believe that has a chance in hell of becoming law.

The unrealized gains tax has zero chance of passing so I don’t know why it was proposed or why it is being debated. Honestly this is one of the first major missteps of her candidacy.

HOWEVER, I don’t want to hear it from the people who let their leader proclaim that 70% of Americans are in poverty or that crime fell in Venezuela by 67%. At least Kamala is proposing stuff that is within the realm of reality.

Nah man. It will make life expensive for the poor, like we have now.

Ego.

Exactly

Overton window. Get it in the discussion. And it will eventually be a thing.

I think it's got a chance, or at least a higher likelihood than what is being assigned here. As i've said before, the govt is going to need to accelerate its rate of funding itself because the economy and the job market and how a lot of people traditionally made a living will be changing.

+1

did I read it right saying harris supports a stronger border and isnt really for electric car mandate?

why are republicans so mad the last 2 weeks I noticed some slight issues that both trump and harris both are agreeing on 100% if this keeps going then harris is going to be way more moderate than they thought

i aslo want to say the team behind harris is doing a****ing immaculate job at getting her into a solid position, its insane , absolutely insane if its he same team as bidens, thre is no way/

Nothing Harris says today is believable at all, that's the small detail you might be missing

The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. The truth is that if we implemented this tax and everything went perfect it wouldn’t even scratch the surface of what is needed to rein in on government spending. That’s not considering that it could also be horribly wrong and actually reduce tax compliance.

People need to stop pretending that we don’t need rich people. And we also have to stop thinking in terms of income inequality and start thinking in terms of minimum quality of life or other such concepts.

If the top 1% are literally showering themselves in gold, but the bottom 90% have pretty decent lives, can afford leisure time, etc, I don’t know why we get mad at the top 1%. Maybe the best argument is actually about influence, not about how them living better lives than the rest of us is morally wrong.

To a third worlder, Americans are the 1% after all. And the solution to that isn’t to take money from Americans, it’s for the third world to improve its economy and standard of living.

almost none of MAGA care about policy. they probably can't even tell you a single detail about Trump policy. i'm not sure he even has an identifiable policy position that anyone believes he actually cares about other than less taxes for himself. they simply like how he makes them feel.

Lol, it's a cult. But keep fighting the good fight.

deporting everyone isn't a real policy position. it's just racism. but thank you for pointing out what i was only alluding to, the true draw of MAGA is that he makes them feel good about their racism. if massive deportations were an actual policy position it's just economic collapse. take away the racism and xenophobia and they are just holding "Collapse our economy NOW!" signs.

Not policy because you dislike it.

Lol wtf

Please stop attacking other posters like this

Once again calling people liars in this thread. I hope you are permanently banned.

https://theconversation.com/trump-promises-to-deport-all-undocumented-immigrants-resurrecting-a-1950s-strategy-but-it-didnt-work-then-and-is-less-likely-to-do-so-now-226943

The Conversation

Trump promises to deport all undocumented immigrants, resurrecting a 1950s strategy − but it didn’t work then and is less likely to do so now

"While campaigning in Iowa last September, former President Donald Trump made a promise to voters if he were elected again: “Following the Eisenhower model, we will carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history,” he said. Trump, who made a similar pledge during his first presidential campaign, has recently repeated this promise at rallies across the country."

There is no clear indication that this will happen if Trump is elected. There is no clear indication that this will become official Republican policy as you claim above. Simply because he said he would do it the last time he was President and he didn't do it. In fact there were fewer deportations of illegal aliens during Trump than under the first 4 years of Obama and also the last 4 years as well.

So when you say "and it isn't policy now, but Trump promises it will be." somehow you don't get that Trump lies all the time about everything. And yet you continue to call us liars here. What you are saying is just not true. But I think I understand why you will never admit you are wrong. Its just who you are.