IQ (moved subtopic)

IQ is more meta than other elements though. IQ is what makes you order priorities to achieve goals better so you train whatever else you need more in order to achieve your goals and you identify what you need better with higher IQ.

how do you measure emotional maturity and why do you think that's very important to achieve most goals?

if we go by IQ it's hard to defend you claim, given how the black vote goes in the USA.

Funny how often Luciom injects race into the issue of IQ. Coincidence?

when ethnicities don't split equally among the 2 parties, a claim about the intelligence of voters is a claim about the intelligence of ethnicities

Just as IQ tests are not flawless when it comes to measuring intelligence, there aren't flawless EQ tests.

Don't you think that someone who gets overwhelmed when they face major hurdles and has emotional breakdowns would have a more difficult time than someone with a more stoic attitude? If someone is intelligent and has goals, wouldn't feeling so depressed that they can barely get themselves out of bed in the morning affect their ability to achieve those goals? Is someone whose social skills are so poor that they don't pick up on social cues and repeatedly rub others the wrong way at a disadvantage compared to someone with better social skills?

If you meant force of will yes ofc I agree that would be a predictor of success (marshmallow test and all).

But you can be the kind of person who rages a lot and screams when alone and sleeps badly when things don't go well and that could actually help you achieve your goal, just to avoid suffering, vs someone who is extremely calm and placid (just saying).

Bad social skills can be costly but that's another topic imho

No evidence highly intelligent black people vote any differently from black high school drop outs. Plenty of evidence highly intelligent whites vote differently from white high school drop outs.

But it should be pointed out this is by design. There aren't enough unintelligent black people for a party to exist that can specifically court them at the expensive of much much larger groups. There is a huge pool of unintelligent whites that can actually impact positions as they do with republicans.

Probably going to be college educated blacks voting Dem more than other black yes, and?

Wtf? We are in the IQ thread and I get the claim that republicans have lower IQ voters.

We have a subdemo that uncontroversially has significantly lower IQ than most of the rest of the population (what's controversial is why, not the existence of the gap), that predominantly votes democrats.

What about this discussion should be ban-worthy? Why even suggest a ban???

I'm not going to ban you because I am not modding the forum, but if you continue insinuating that black people vote for Democrats because they have low IQs, you are going to get banned.

I don't believe that, but if that's really what you believe, you either should keep it to yourself or accept that you are going to get banned.

There's no evidence of that either, other than standard correlations between education and actually voting. The only known education gradient is in whites with the uneducated voting conservative, hence the need to separate whites by education when polling. None of that is remotely controversial

DM because it's getting crazy tbh. Never claimed it's because of their IQ that they vote dem. But the claim that conservatives are the party of the stupid is very wild and I should be able to answer that discussing the IQ of all the demographics that vote dem.

Ok so which data do you have to claim that among people who actually vote, the median IQ of the republican voter is lower than the median IQ of the democrat voter? Because you claimed that very confidently and implying a significant margin.

Do you agree that among young white people nowadays going to college isn't a predictor of IQ?

This line of inquiry isn't going to get you banned. See how this works?

Where did I say that?

I see that you think that I can't use data about ethnical demographics that vote dems

As I told you via PM, I'm not telling you what to do. Make your own decisions.

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/Conservatives are the stupid party/

For that to be true what I wrote has to be true.

If the median IQ of republican voters is the same or higher than democrat voters you can't claim conservatives are the stupid party.

If what you meant is *well actually yes republican voters aren't more stupid than democrat voters but I have a lot of intelligent democrat friends so...* Then clarify

Why are we letting the turboposting fascist freak start a eugenics thread?

i don't think this characterization is fair as he was responding to a posts by others talking about iq being linked to your voting behavior

I don't know if Republican voters in the US are statistically more stupid than just about any other group known to man, but they are certainly more visibly stupid. The quantity and severity of the never-ending dumb **** Republicans say and seem to believe often leave one wondering how most of them have the brainpower to remember to breathe.

You are naive. He is smart enough to not explicitly posit a causal connection because he knows that would be an autoban. But he is testing how close he can tiptoe up to the line. I've seen this routine many, many times. It always, and I mean always, ends up in the same place.

Nope, that's just something you made up. I was actually quoting a Republican who called them the party of stupid. The arguments they make and the positions they take are often dumb. But no reason to think the median IQ is any lower given their size; the law of large numbers often works even if you're picking non randomly. Plenty of smarter republicans vote for them, but understand they are the stupid party like Jindal does. Dumb republicans are just the ones that don't get that.