IQ (moved subtopic)

IQ (moved subtopic)

by d2_e4 k

^^Hey Luciom, can you remind me again how smart JD Vance is? Above, same, or below the average MAGA chode?

I have no problem with schools using affirmative action to help people like Vance with humble backgrounds.... but maybe not in law school where these idiots start becoming dangerous. And they got to find smarter people then Vance or the whole thing just looks ridiculous and all you're doing is de-valuing your own department.

06 September 2024 at 01:49 PM
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by d2_e4 k

I don't know if Republican voters in the US are statistically more stupid than just about any other group known to man, but they are certainly more visibly stupid. The quantity and severity of the never-ending dumb **** Republicans say and seem to believe often leave one wondering how most of them have the brainpower to remember to breathe.

No it's you going after elements of conservative culture you despise, calling them stupid, and feeling good about it.

I mean most democrats up to 6 months ago considered Biden in good form and given it was obvious to the naked eye he wasn't, and he is still POTUS with full powers, it's truly incredible you consider this as marginal or insignificant.

Nothing republicans did as a majority ever came close to considering Biden Ok health wise in say may 2024. It was absurd , completely impossible to defend, yet almost every democrat did defend that truly obscene claim with very real consequences.

It was only when it was obvious to the most uninterested independent that Biden was cooked (and he was for a long time at that point) that democrats magically all started to agree that yes it was time for him to go.

Stop pretending this didn't happen recently under your eyes.

If your counter is "well this wasn't because utterly stupid, this made political sense as a common defended lie" THEN APPLY THAT TO EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN CLAIM AS WELL.

Do you actually think they truly think the economy is in a disastrous place currently? Or they just push that topic to convince people on the fence to vote their tribe?


Conservatives are the party of lower educated white voters, Democrats are the party of lower educated non-white voters. In general most people in both parties lack critical thinking and are highly susceptible to group think.


by checkraisdraw k

Conservatives are the party of lower educated white voters, Democrats are the party of lower educated non-white voters. In general most people in both parties lack critical thinking and are highly susceptible to group think.

I can sign on to this view.


by Luciom k

No it's you going after elements of conservative culture you despise, calling them stupid, and feeling good about it.

I mean most democrats up to 6 months ago considered Biden in good form and given it was obvious to the naked eye he wasn't, and he is still POTUS with full powers, it's truly incredible you consider this as marginal or insignificant.

Nothing republicans did as a majority ever came close to considering Biden Ok health wise in say may 2024. It was absurd , completely impossible to de

Bwahahahha... your claim is that democrats are just as/more stupid than republicans because they... checks notes... defended Biden against claims of being senile? Republicans have a leader who literally talks in word salad most of the time. Then let's add all the other dumb****ery on top of that.


by checkraisdraw k

Conservatives are the party of lower educated white voters, Democrats are the party of lower educated non-white voters. In general most people in both parties lack critical thinking and are highly susceptible to group think.

But they are also the party of higher educated non white voters. A great diversification that helps against the group think trap you seem to be worried about.


by Luciom k

Nothing republicans did as a majority ever came close to considering Biden Ok health wise in say may 2024.



by ecriture d'adulte k

But they are also the party of higher educated non white voters. A great diversification that helps the group think trap you seem to be worried about.

What's the data for Asians voting propensity by education level?


by ecriture d'adulte k

But they are also the party of higher educated non white voters. A great diversification that helps the group think trap you seem to be worried about.

For the most part, it looks like the partisanship based on educational attainment doesn’t effect people of color as much as it does white people. And among whites, there is only a marginal difference for all educated voters.


by Luciom k

What's the data for Asians voting propensity by education level?

Propensity or preference? There isn't great data afaik because nobody has found any education gradient in any race's voting other than whites.


by Rococo k

You are naive. He is smart enough to not explicitly posit a causal connection because he knows that would be an autoban. But he is testing how close he can tiptoe up to the line. I've seen this routine many, many times. It always, and I mean always, ends up in the same place.

others were stating that your iq would determine which party you voted for

it's a statistical fact that certain ethnic groups and cultures perform better or worse on iq tests

for example, nearly all of asia regularly shares memes where they compare the iq of the phillipines to the rest of asia

you see various versions of this all over asian internet - usually not presented so professionally


but... it's kind of just sticking your head in the sand if you want to pretend like that isn't the case - i suggest you watch that norm macdonald clip i shared earlier - you can't address a problem if you refuse to acknowledge because you're worried about sounding racist by doing so


Filipinos obvs spending too much time at the pool halls.


by d2_e4 k

Filipinos obvs spending too much time at the pool halls.

and murdering people because you disapprove of their karaoke

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_kil...

phillipines is the florida of asia


by Luciom k

No it's you going after elements of conservative culture you despise, calling them stupid, and feeling good about it.

I mean most democrats up to 6 months ago considered Biden in good form and given it was obvious to the naked eye he wasn't, and he is still POTUS with full powers, it's truly incredible you consider this as marginal or insignificant.

Nothing republicans did as a majority ever came close to considering Biden Ok health wise in say may 2024. It was absurd , completely impossible to de

I think this has more to do with biases/not wanting to be wrong and playing politics than stupidity. Republicans didn't rush out to condemn Trump after his comments about immigrants "poisoning the blood of the country" and "the radical left thugs who live like vermin within the confines of our country." He was clearly echoing Hitler with that language, but they just hand-waved it away. "Nothing to see here!" My guess is that plenty of everyday Democrat and Republican voters have acknowledged these things about Biden and Trump. They just don't get a lot of attention or say it out loud.


Holy ****, that My Way stuff is insane.


by d2_e4 k

I would like one of the people arguing against IQ or IQ testing to explain what they mean when they call someone "smart", "dumb", "high intelligence", "low intelligence", "genius", "moron", etc. etc.

And then once that is explained, explain why whatever was just explained can't be measured.

I never got a response on this from the anti-IQ testing crowd. It was a serious question. coordi? Gregory? smartDFS? Anyone else?


by Gregory Illinivich k

I think this has more to do with biases/not wanting to be wrong and playing politics than stupidity. Republicans didn't rush out to condemn Trump after his comments about immigrants "poisoning the blood of the country" and "the radical left thugs who live like vermin within the confines of our country." He was clearly echoing Hitler with that language, but they just hand-waved it away. "Nothing to see here!" My guess is that plenty of everyday Democrat and Republican voters have acknowledged the

and liberals didn't hand wave away biden in clear mental decline, confusing names of world leaders and names of countries and getting lost on stage repeatedly?


by rickroll k

and liberals didn't hand wave away biden in clear mental decline, confusing names of world leaders and names of countries and getting lost on stage repeatedly?

While having complete sovereign unappealable control on the use of thousands of nuclear warheads, against anyone at any time.


I guess they just mean uneducated. And since they seem to think social and emotional intelligence are just as important as regular intelligence I guess all they mean is ability to conform to the crowd and parrot information that has been fed to you.

JK, sort of…


by d2_e4 k

I never got a response on this from the anti-IQ testing crowd. It was a serious question. coordi? Gregory? smartDFS? Anyone else?

Gregory doesn't seem to deny IQ existence, he "only" under plays it's significance in life outcomes compared to other traits


by Luciom k

While having complete sovereign unappealable control on the use of thousands of nuclear warheads, against anyone at any time.

It does sound pretty irresponsible to give that sort of power to give to someone who is senile, or stupid, or impulsive, or deranged. So, we should give it to, checks notes again, Donald Trump.


by d2_e4 k

It does sound pretty irresponsible to give that sort of power to give to someone who is senile, or stupid, or impulsive, or deranged. So, we should give it to, checks notes again, Donald Trump.

How many times do I have to write that I prefer Harris to win if the Senate goes republican?

For sure democrats should have used the 25th months ago though, and not doing that is a dereliction of duty putting the country under exceptional danger , which is unjustifiable and a dire indictment of their characters.

Democrats are indefensible, the only acceptable argument is "but trump" which still stands.

But any positive spinning of the maleodorant bunch of toxic and poisonous people who call the shots in the DNC is either the fruit of complete ignorance, or of complete bad faith.

Btw I also think democrats would have higher chances to win the presidency if they had used the 25th many months ago and had selected a better candidate


by d2_e4 k

It does sound pretty irresponsible to give that sort of power to give to someone who is senile, or stupid, or impulsive, or deranged. So, we should give it to, checks notes again, Donald Trump.

what you don't understand about conservatives is they just play the uno reverse card on this and swap out the order of trump and biden

both sides equally engage in handwaving and copium in order to support the lesser of two evils and by doing so excuse away the world

there's very little kamala nor trump could do to lose the support of their core between now and the election, because as much as that core may disaprove of what that person says or does, it's still better than the alternative

vote jill stein


by rickroll k

what you don't understand about conservatives is they just play the uno reverse card on this and swap out the order of trump and biden

both sides equally engage in handwaving and copium in order to support the lesser of two evils and by doing so excuse away the world

there's very little kamala nor trump could do to lose the support of their core between now and the election, because as much as that core may disaprove of what that person says or does, it's still better than the alternative

Except one side is actually objectively far, far more terrible by any reasonable person's measure. So no, neither they nor their supporters are "the same".


by rickroll k

and liberals didn't hand wave away biden in clear mental decline, confusing names of world leaders and names of countries and getting lost on stage repeatedly?

Of course they did. I didn't argue otherwise. But Luciom said "Nothing republicans did as a majority ever came close to considering Biden Ok health wise in say may 2024. It was absurd , completely impossible to defend, yet almost every democrat did defend that truly obscene claim with very real consequences." I mean, is pointing to Trumps remarks not a valid response?


by d2_e4 k

Except one side is actually objectively far, far more terrible by any reasonable person's measure. So no, neither they nor their supporters are "the same".

agreed there but both sides are terrible, skip the first 30 seconds of that clip above until jill starts talking and listen to the 1-2 minutes where she speaks

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