Preflop call and River decision
Limper (150bb)
Hero opens HJ 5bb Qd3d
BTN calls
Limper 15bb
Hero call
Im not a big fan of making this call but the limper was weak and also losing a lot at this point and he made a pretty small 3B
Flop 10d7h4c (37bb)
Checks through
Turn Jd (37bb)
Check
Hero bets 20bb
Call
River 9d (77bb)
Leads 50bb
hero ??
On this river how do we vary vs deep stacks is this a mandatory raise if so do we raise fold to a shove??
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I wouldn't open over a limper with Q3s in the HJ, much less less a limp/re-raise with it. Reads/stakes/table dynamics matter there, so I wish you'd included them, but I doubt they are enough to make that play defensible.
I don't see what V calls a raise with that we beat. His range is pretty much bigger flushes, overpairs, and spazz. I don't see much, if any, lower flushes or straights (which might not call a raise anyway). River is just a call to me.
You're preflop raises in a few of your hands are really loose. It might be a good starting point for you to look at preflop raise charts by position because this should be an easy fold pre.
When he donks out otr for 50 into 77 after the flush completes, without any reads on him I would just call since we only have the 3rd NF and he's more likely playing Kxs and Axs hands pre rather than Jxs hands.
yeah I think the reason I shoved was he was losing a lot and if he had any reasonable hand I was thinking he might just pay off
OP, your last action counts as part of the results. Please stop revealing it in your HH or in the thread until after conversation dies down. It biases responses.
Fold pre both times
Flop and turn fine, now call river
Pre is bad, both times.
Flop check good. Turn bet good.
His most likely holding is AK, KK, AA, QQ with limp/rr. With check flop/turn, I doubt it's an overpair, so most likely holding is AK. If the AK is anything other than AdKd, he's insta folding to a raise, i.e. nothing to be gained from raising, so just calling.
Of course he could show up with KQ, which is about the only thing you *might* get value from, but that would be a very atypical limp reraise
If you got involved with a bad hand preflop because you thought you'd get paid off later on, then shove the river. Q3s is a simple fold preflop under any normal circumstances and an even simpler fold to a limp-reraise...so if you're going to deviate wildly preflop it should be with the intention of punishing the bad player, if bad player indeed they are. Blocking the straight isn't ideal, however.
Preflop is truly insane