$2/5 Weak top pair+FD facing large turn bet

I'd fold in this spot too, considering the villain's aggression and the board texture. You've got a good read on the villain, and it's likely they have a strong hand. Your thought process is solid, and I think you made the right call in the end.

I was a bit surprised that GTOw recommends mostly folding PF to the 3-bet, with the occasional 4-bet sprinkled in.

Yea seems like a good call when factoring in implied odds

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Looks really value heavy. I think it's a fold. If I were to continue, I'd probably just shove considering what's in the pot and what's left.

Calling pre for the price and position.

BTW, don't add results until after 24 hours.

Turn is a very straightforward call. Yes, you are behind often but you have many outs to improve and you have implied odds when in position. If Villain has you beat (AA, AK, AQ) you will almost always get the rest of his stack if you hit a heart or a ten.

You can make an exploitative fold on the river if you don’t improve and he shoves, even though you will be getting a great price.

I don’t know if GTOw’s preflop solve is applicable in this spot since the raise is only 2.5x which is ridiculously small from OOP.

I think he meant the opposite. That my villains raise size was tiny but GTOw would use a standard larger raise, and that my HH is a call bc of villains tiny raise size

I would fold otf. I'm only calling pre because it's almost a min raise (I'd fold ATo though) but I can't blame anyone for folding to the 3bet. The turn call seems less than favorable since we don't have much IO's left.

I think this is the worst option, to just gii bc of stack sizes even though we know we're drawing slim? If we think there's no fold equity then jamming turn is negative EV while calling and getting it in on river with hands we make is actually +EV. So why would we ever want to continue with a shove on turn?

This is assuming we get paid when the heart hits, which we really shouldn't. V just happens to be that bad, though. And, he might actually fold the turn... [He's down a few buyins at this point and has somewhat tightened up.]

This is basically what it came down to for me was the question of whether the remainder of his stack was worth the turn call given we did not quite have the right pot odds for the 24% equity draw but it's a lot closer if we include the extra $250 (i think it was actually closer to $270 but I simplified results to be $600 effective)

Yeah I was confident I was getting paid if the heart or Ten came, he really was that bad and couldn't fold top pair for the life of him. Played with him several times now so I felt good about my read there. Tbf he might actually fold to the turn jam with his exact holding but I put him on AQ/AK and know he isn't folding that. So it was definitely a villain dependant call here

That's fair.

Turn is an easy call, nothing else makes sense. Flop could be a fold to this sizing multi-way though, dunno.

So you fold everything other than a flush whenever a BDFD gets there?

Not necessarily, but as V, it's hard to put H on much that we beat -- AJ doesn't beat much. Plus, V is in for a lot and has tightened up. When I wrote that we didn't have the info that V will pay off w/ AJ.

Also, we don't know much about H. Maybe H loves to bluff scare cards? Maybe he is never bluffing?

flop is a fold normally but villain seems like a button clicker, so idk

Turn is not an easy call, it's actually a bad call if villain has any less in his stack or we don't think we get paid on a heart river. What makes you think easy call? Flop could maybe be a fold but at that point we may as well fold pre

If we're folding top pair on a dry board texture then why even call pre? He could be continuing an underpair hoping for folds and we are still IP

I would call pre only bc we have a NFD possibility. I'm never flatting with ATo but if I thought his 3bets were weak it's a great hand to 4bet with since we block aces and AK. All of his aces he continues with crush us.

Villain is a mega spazz if he plays AJo like this so gotta call turn with some possibility of being ahead, lots of outs, and can often get some more money when we hit the nuts.

If Villain has us beat on the turn, it is extremely unlikely that we don’t win more money from him on the river when we improve. AK is his most likely hand and no one is check/folding that hand in a 3BP at this SPR just because a back door flush comes in.

OP addressed this but I was referring to Villain’s 3bet sizing being small. My post may have been worded in a confusing fashion.

I’m guessing GTOw goes something like 5x or greater, so a 2.5x 3bet is much smaller. Have to continue with a lot more hands against the smaller size (esp. because when Villains use this size they are often weaker players).

But OP put V on AA/AK/AQ and said he had tightened up, so OP wasn't considering V to be spazzing at the time of the hand.

because many people will not bet the flop without an ace on an ace high board, especially as a pf 3 bettor because the first raiser's range contains many Ax hands.