NL10 - was my hero fold with AA good or too tight

yes, good fold. They always have aces beat in this spot. Very occasionally you might see a strong draw but you're even blocking the NFD.

I did give villain a range of: QQ+, AKs, KQs, KdJd, JdTd, AKo, KQo

against this range I am 85% favourite though with my aces. Or is that range too loose for villain? Would he ever do it with KdJd of diamonds? And would he ever reraise AK in this spot or just call?

I doubt he's raising AK otf, i mean you might see it occasionally but usually they would just call. I'm speaking from my recent experience at 5nl on stars. They are not bluffing, ever. And you're not beating value unless it's a badly played AK.

EDIT: And you can take a lot of diamond combos out because IP especially they're just going to flat your cbet most of the time.

Yeah you've got a point 😀

No reason for him to raise IP with AK or diamonds, much more weight in his range for the other combos that want to stack off fast against your range and protect equity/scared of action killers.
AA on KQx needs caution, I'd fold.

I actually went OVER THE TOP vs reraise on the flop while shouting "I DEMAND RESPECT". Villain snap called with QQ LOL

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I mean think of it like this... In villain's shoes how would you feel with AK otf? You're almost already in bluffcatcher territory(please don't take this to mean I think we're in a bad spot otf because we're not). You're gonna flat the cbet and keep their range as wide as possible and hope they don't have QQ+, KQ. You're certainly not raising.

KQx is a disaster board against someone who just coldcalled a 3b in a multiway ISO pot, when KQ and TT-QQ are among the most common hands for coldcalling. Not sure if I want to cbet here but it's probably fine. I'm sure folding to the raise is fine too.

Also you can probably tag the BB as a fish after this hand.

I dont think you can fold this. KK will almost always gii pre KQ wont call in the first place you lose to QQ but you beat AK split with AA sometimes he shows up with combo draw.

Thank you for the feedback guys. Maybe one day I can find a fold here against a reasonable opponent.

Yes, AA are more often slow played then KK. You can give him half combo of KQs KJs if you want.

yeah I think Haiz is right.

The raise is a de facto shove, so the odds look something like call $7 into a pot of $14, roughly 33%. Against a range of QQ/KQs/AK we have 59%, before we even get to draws.

The hidden EV here seems to be the backdoors. Straights/2 outers and the A♦. Notably when we switch out the A♦ with the A♥ we lose 6% equity. So blocking draws is much less relevant than raw equity.

Why are we assuming villain is raising AK or draws?

You get 3bet to 48bb in a 3 bet pot, they always have it. The guy cold call a 3bet preflop, we can conclude they're passive. There aren't many players passive preflop and aggro postflop (there are, but not the whole pool). Personally I find the hardest part is convincing my finger to actually click fold. Every time I fail and get stacked.

Well fish do like to overraise 3b cbets when calling IP a lot, so i don't think it's that unlikely. The spot itself is kind of unique granted.

SPR is like what, 2? We have an OP. Draws, worse value and spew exist, even if they're unlikely. And we're supposed to lose a lot (2/3) to realise the EV of our hand.

Although it seems like an always have it spot, the margins for error are quite extreme.

AA v QQ has ~10% equity. If you give villain ONE single combo of AK, we get 33%.




If we're breaking even with a single overplayed combo I'd say folding is comparatively negative EV

I guess in theory this is pure call, if we are going to deviate we need strong evidence to make hero fold.

At spr of 2 we should should lose a stack with over pair vs a set.

That's what I'm working on as well. Tbh I think it's better to take the stance that your default action is fold to any raise, and need a good reason to call, be that pot odds, player type etc. Yeah sometimes you might be missing out on a very marginal 0 or slightly + EV spot but bluff raises and even good semi bluff raises are so rare at the stakes I'm playing it I think it's a waste of time and energy trying to work out which these are and you run the risk of talking yourself into many bad calls. I see fish and regs playing all types of draws passively postflop and rarely if ever bluffing missed ones given the chance. This is a passive nitfest where everyone is just trying to cooler each other. Apart from exploiting fish obviously, in this pool your edge comes from not paying off the nitregs, bluffing the ones that know their pool and just handreading better in general. (I'm talking about 5nl on stars, maybe it loosens up slightly as you go up)

Good talking! I love this forum ♥

I believe Haizemberg93 & Ceres are obviously right this is a call "in theory" (I'm not sure there is a "theory" of BB cold-calling 3bets though), because if we start folding this then our opponents can just shove over our cbet in 3bet pots every time and they print. Now the question is should we really deviate that much from theory on the basis we think microstakes is nitland? I argued yes, but I might be biaised by the results.

I'll start worrying about MDF when they can prove they own a pair. Until then I won't afford them that compliment 😃

On the other hand we can overfold and print if opponents only do that with KQ/QQ/KK without balancing with weaker combos.
Pretty clear GTO vs exploit eternal debate lol, in this particular spot I'm always deviating from theory.

I have a cool story bros. A fish actually tripple barreled me with the NFD yesterday and I called him down with top pair and I actually felt bad lol... I said props for following through. Then a few hands later he got it all in with me on the turn with 7% equity and sucked out. "NH sir, you deserve that" and I meant it😃