IQ (moved subtopic)
^^Hey Luciom, can you remind me again how smart JD Vance is? Above, same, or below the average MAGA chode?
I have no problem with schools using affirmative action to help people like Vance with humble backgrounds.... but maybe not in law school where these idiots start becoming dangerous. And they got to find smarter people then Vance or the whole thing just looks ridiculous and all you're doing is de-valuing your own department.
in 7th grade when i was still in public school there was a test we were all given that was a series of puzzles, what stands out the most was that the final section was a series of random shapes
it'd be something like a box with a line going through it and then you'd be asked to use that as a starting point to draw something from that - it was not testing your artistic ability but instead how creative you were
out of the 100 or so 7th graders, maybe 6-7 of us were pulled out and told that if we wanted, we'd be taken out of class every friday afternoon to go to the OMEGA classroom - it was an acronymn for Open Minds E? Growing Achieving
the first few months we did neat little exercises and projects but after that it turned into doing personal projects which usually meant we'd just show up and joke around and not do much of anything while our teach would sneak off to smoke cigarettes
i used that as an excuse to design my own fishing lures
i later tried making a battery powered lighter for her (that's how often she smoked) by attaching a wire via 2 AA batteries and hoping the coil would heat up enough to light a cig - i recall it working but the entire thing got way too hot and it took forever to heat up enough and there were only so many times you could do it before the batteries were dead but it was fun to do nonetheless
since tried googling it and found nothing on it at all, feels like it was just some pet project of the woman who ran it instead of a big initiative
So far only two people have taken IQ tests. The experiences you reference are not relevant in the slightest.
IQ tests are administered by doctors in a controlled office setting. They use timers. They distract you and see how well you respond etc
I could be wrong ofc but all this other stuff sounds like tests that are not IQ tests
looks like PW wants to use game genie to skip directly to the boss fight with cn
in 7th grade when i was still in public school there was a test we were all given that was a series of puzzles, what stands out the most was that the final section was a series of random shapes
it'd be something like a box with a line going through it and then you'd be asked to use that as a starting point to draw something from that - it was not testing your artistic ability but instead how creative you were
out of the 100 or so 7th graders, maybe 6-7 of us were pulled out and told that if we wan
At least you learnt something that would undoubtedly come in very useful in your future endeavours - how to light cigarettes in prison. Pro tip: a small piece ripped from a brillo pad makes a very effective single-use filament.
sadly, my school was not this hip
I took an IQ test in school. Scored really high. But given all the stupid **** I did when I was young, and the fact that the older I get the dumber I get, I have to question the validity of the results.
IQ tests are administered by doctors in a controlled office setting. They use timers. They distract you and see how well you respond etc
I'm pretty sure that IQ tests are administered by psychologists, not medical doctors. And I'm 99% certain that the administrator does not try to intentionally distract the test subject during the test.
So, judging by the experiences related so far, nobody who has taken an IQ test had the opportunity to prepare for it, or in some cases even knew they were going to be taking one. And, as I have recently learned, the plural of anecdote is in fact data, so it sounds like this whole preparation thing is a bit of a red herring.
Thinking of being prepared as intentionally preparing for the test is a mistake.
Those who enjoyed books of logic puzzles for example are probably better prepared than some orhers.
Being used to formal tests also helps. Doing modern maths at school might help.
Etc
I'm pretty sure that IQ tests are administered by psychologists, not medical doctors. And I'm 99% certain that the administrator does not try to intentionally distract the test subject during the test.
shh, if we allow it, he'll soon start talking about the leather suit and whips that was part of the test
So far only two people have taken IQ tests. The experiences you reference are not relevant in the slightest.
IQ tests are administered by doctors in a controlled office setting. They use timers. They distract you and see how well you respond etc
I could be wrong ofc but all this other stuff sounds like tests that are not IQ tests
When I was kidding around via IQ numbers I never actually was thinking about what IQ tests measured because the examples of IQ questions I came across included stuff like paper folding and pattern recognition, while I was really only talking about thinking ability. Ie problem solving, recognizing fallacious arguments and things of that nature. I used scores of IQ tests as a stand in because it involved only one number. Personally, I never took an actual IQ test ((but I did get an A in calculus at Penn.) But the stuff I, and most people are referring to when they talk about being "smart" is, I believe, measured more accurately by the LSAT and the National Merit Scholarship Exam rather than an IQ test. (But even those tests don't measure the ability to come up with inventions, math proofs, a move script or a symphony, so they are also far from perfect.)
since tried googling it and found nothing on it at all, feels like it was just some pet project of the woman who ran it instead of a big initiative
My two theories here are invented memories to paper over some trauma from that time in your life or a teacher in your school faked an entire school initiative (made up a test to pick kids for it and everything) just to get an extra smoke break and get kids to make her homemade lighters and ****. Which is absolute queen behavior, they should make a statue of her or donate a toaster oven to the faculty lounge in her honor.
I'm just guessing here as I have not read any of these papers, but I doubt either one of them made a "mistake" in the traditional sense. Von Neumann probably placed a huge restriction on the type of local hidden variable theories that were possible based on data they had then. Some people certainly made a mistake and took that to mean no hidden variable theory of any type can possibly reproduce known experiments. Hermann correctly pointed out that these people were wrong. This happens all th
But even very recently, papers are being written about the controversy. I referenced the next to last one I saw that retook Greta's side. But the most recent one I saw when I googled the two names apparently took issue with that one.
I would think that this subject deserves more publicity. The female mathematician from the thirty's vs the supposedly world's smartest man. (Then again how smart could he be? He didn't see the trick in the fly/ train problem. He loved the hydrogen bomb, and he didn't go to Gardena to crush the poker players there with the GTO he invented.)
But even very recently, papers are being written about the controversy. I referenced the next to last one I saw that retook Greta's side. But the most recent one I saw when I googled the two names apparently took issue with that one.
I would think that this subject deserves more publicity. The female mathematician from the thirty's vs the supposedly world's smartest man. (Then again how smart could he be? He didn't see the trick in the fly/ train problem. He loved the hydrogen bomb, and he didn't
He solved the fly/train problem quicker without the trick than you could with it.
It's from a YouTube mini-series about poker. Very 2010 humor, aesthetic and references:
It's from a YouTube mini-series about poker. Very 2010 humor, aesthetic and references:
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I tested into Mensa during a very brief bout of extreme insecurity many many years ago
How did you get tested
I'm pretty sure that IQ tests are administered by psychologists, not medical doctors. And I'm 99% certain that the administrator does not try to intentionally distract the test subject during the test.
What’s your first sentence mean?
So far only two people have taken IQ tests. The experiences you reference are not relevant in the slightest.
IQ tests are administered by doctors in a controlled office setting. They use timers. They distract you and see how well you respond etc
I could be wrong ofc but all this other stuff sounds like tests that are not IQ tests
So we are up to three people?
I'm pretty sure that IQ tests are administered by psychologists, not medical doctors. And I'm 99% certain that the administrator does not try to intentionally distract the test subject during the test.
Why would you think that jw? Like you’ve never taken an IQ test, prob don’t know anything about them, but when someone retells what their experience is, you say oh you’re prob wrong
Why do you think that?
Huh?
But even very recently, papers are being written about the controversy. I referenced the next to last one I saw that retook Greta's side. But the most recent one I saw when I googled the two names apparently took issue with that one.
I would think that this subject deserves more publicity. The female mathematician from the thirty's vs the supposedly world's smartest man. (Then again how smart could he be? He didn't see the trick in the fly/ train problem. He loved the hydrogen bomb, and he didn't
I thought I responded to that. The debate might not really be mathematical, but more philosophical. What exactly defines the necessary conditions of a quantum theory of the type Bohr argued for and what exactly is a hidden variable theory that Einstein preferred? It seems more like Von Neumann made an argument, Hermann said "no, that's a strawman, and not really what people mean by Quantum Mechanics and hidden variables" and since it's not a pure math issue people still argue about it.
It means that IQ tests typically are administered by psychologists, not medical doctors. They could be administered by a psychiatrists. Psychiatrists of course are medical doctors. But they don't have to be administered by a psychiatrist.
I don't know how to be any clearer.
