2/3 Line check in 4b! Pot with AKss
2/3 500 max, 8 handed, I sat down 3 hands ago while I was UTG and now on the button,
Villain is effective stack ~460
Villain is UTG
Villain is top 10-15% in 2/3 player pool and uncertain if studied;
Villain opens UTG to 15, UTG +1 calls, hero on button 3b! With AKss to 60, UTG thinks for about 30-45 seconds and 4b! To 170, UTG+1 calls and hero thinks and calls.
Hero:
I rarely have a 5b! Range to protect my overall range
Think flatting vs a good player in position with top of range would be okay, thoughts? Get it in?
Flop (355)
7s8dJs
Villain checks
Hero thinks and bets 90
Villain calls
Hero:
I thought of this as if I bet, what hands would I be betting with? Does AKss fall under that range? Also 4b! Pots i think if i bet i am going 1/4-1/3rd pot, is 90 the correct size as in position, not 4b! Aggressor? Should i jam?
Turn (535)
Qh
Villain lead jams remaining 200
Hero snap calls
My overall question is, in a 2/3 player pool, how differently would you play this hand per street?
12 Replies
Jam or fold depending on your player read pre. I think flat is the only seriously minus EV play here.
I hate flatting, but that's just me.
If he's only known you for 3 hands and never played with you before in his life I would just fold since I'm either 5betting or folding. If he was another good player vs me who he also knew I was a good player I might jam but not vs an unknown. Taking 45 seconds pre after you 3bet was just him in la la land enjoying his moment because his aces just got 3bet.
With the double flatter in there that's a basic jam preflop where you're guaranteed to see 5 cards...you might even fold out AK which would be a great bonus. By calling you'll have to just fold on the flop a hell of a lot.
What happened to +1 in the end? I presume they folded at some point, but when?
Agreeing with @moxterite. 5! Jam and feeling all right about it. Maybe folding AKo. Especially since I'm not sure how studied V is with a 4! to 170, over a 60 3!, with a 460 stack. Seems a bit big, even OOP.
The math isn't adding up for pot sizes, BTW. V 170 + UTG1 170 + H 170 is 510. Guessing UTG1 called the 15 open, but folded to the 4!. Still, 355 pot, 290 back if we just call the additional 110. And an awkward flop.
Or we jam 400 more, and force V to call an additional 290 for a total pot of 935, therefore needing 31% to call. What do you think is V's 4! range from UTG, and what do you think V thinks of you?
AP, with two overs and the NFD, just ripping it in, at <1 SPR.
��������HUGE EDIT: UTG+1 folded to 4b!��������
If UTG+1 were actually overcalling I’d be jamming, but wow I wrote my notes down wrong, UTG +1 FOLDED, therefore flop pot is 355
I probably go bigger on flop -- commit him now if you are never folding. For stack sizes, jam pre.
I hadn't done the maths but this does change things - makes a preflop call far more palatable - HOWEVER the 4bet did end up being more than a third of effective stacks so you're realistically in a jam or fold spot anyhow. With a caller in there UTG should be more inclined to 4bet than call quite a lot of hands, so I'd still be inclined to jam now.
As played, with flush draw just jam flop - it's one that favours you anyhow
Result:
Villain has AQcc and is capable of 4b! a pip wider UTG
Grunch: AP I’m stuffing that flop all day.
